Q.S.R. NUD*IST Power version, revision 4.0. Licensee: Caversham Project. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++ Text search for 'Flu' +++ Searching document intJ B... It must have been 1918 and my youngest sister got scarlet fever. Fortunately it was at the end of the year and the schools had closed about a month earlier because of the inFLUenza outbreak. She developed scarlet fever so she was kept at home in a room with a big sheet outside the door covered in disinfectant. The two girls younger than me stayed with the people next door. My eldest sister and I went to stay with a Mr and Mrs Foster who lived on the corner of Playfair Street and the main street up through Caversham. He also was a baker. I don't know that he had a pastry cook but he certainly made bread and had several carts. I suppose that's how my father knew him. 215 RB: When I knew her she was married and had two sons and a girl who died of TB about 1918 at the time of the FLU. It wasn't flu she had because she'd been ill for a long time. I'd forgotten about that. But there must have been quite a lot of TB about at that time. 265 But in Anderson's Bay we did. And hot and cold water in the bathroom with the basin and the shower and everything like that. In the Anderson's Bay house too we had an indoor toilet and an outdoor toilet, FLUsh. But when we went to live there first during the night if we would hear the cart come up and they used to go round the houses and take out the tin from the toilet and empty it into the cart and put it back. For the first few days they used to come round our place you see but we didn't have a toilet like that. My father had a tank put in. 723 MC: SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN QUITE UNUSUAL, WOULDN'T IT TO HAVE HAD HOT AND COLD RUNNING WATER AND FLUSHING TOILETS. 729 RB: Yes it was. A FLUshing toilet. And also that hot water went out to the washhouse. So if my mother wanted to wash anything there was a hot water tap over one of the tubs. But not over the second tub. The second tub was the one she always used for the blue water. That just had a cold water tap over it. 731 +++ 5 text units out of 777, = 0.64% +++ Searching document int.Mrs RB, & Whitty, J... MW: If you had FLU or anything like that. 'Cause mum would say have a hot toddy hot. Mind you I don't think it was very much. 1027 MB: And they have hymns, we don't have such --- well they're all good hymns, but we're getting ordinary ones now, sort of, if you know what I mean. Where the others were sort of saintly hymns and prayers about --- hymns of Our Lady and all that sort of thing. And we're getting sort of, more well-known ones. And they've got beaut voices round here. We've got a good crowd and everybody sings you know. Oh, I was quite worn out last Sunday. They sung one - I forget just what it was, but it was all gusto and they --- every once a month they have someone - there's a boy there who plays a FLUte, and it's lovely. And they've got a banjo and that and it's sort of music Mass you know. And they sing there and oh they just went louder and louder and you sort of keeping up with it. My sister was with me and I said: "I feel quite exhausted". It was full gusto, you know. You must be able to hear it, ... all round the neighbourhood you must be able to hear it. And they've adopted like - some of them like, Amazing Grace hymn, and that's made into a different type of a hymn, but it's that music. 1141 +++ 2 text units out of 1278, = 0.16% +++ Searching document int.Campbell, Amelia... AC: You'll be surprised. An Englishman is still here - it's not a Lebanese minister. There was an English minister when we were young, but if anyone came from Australia and they were Lebanese, they did the service in Lebanese for us. I understand - I can speak Lebanese and I understand, these other generations, a little after me, they don't speak Lebanese very much. But I speak it FLUently. But there's no one here now to talk Lebanese with. 195 +++ 1 text unit out of 671, = 0.15% +++ Searching document int.Colbert, Leslie... LC It was the cornet. He was in different brass bands throughout time. Kaikorai band, citizens band, all different. I learnt to play the cornet but I didn't take it up again until later. I played in an orchestra for a while. Then we played the FLUte, the pipe and drum band. He taught himself everything. Piano, violin. My brother had a violin. He was never allowed to touch it and that's why he never learnt, he never had the chance to. 282 LC My brother taught himself the violin. I taught myself ?? We always had a tin whistle around. That's the same as a FLUte you see. I taught a bloke at one stage myself. I was trying to gather a few bob together to get married. We had an autoharp. Later when I got false teeth and was in the army, I took my cornet away with me. I broke a couple of teeth in the front there and had to have a partial plate. Wasn't too bad but later when I got as far as Italy I got a whole plate in. That's when I finished my cornet playing. So I came back here and wasn't going to go back to a flute agian. I was walking through town one day when I saw these autoharps in Begss. I got one of those and have played it ever since. I played aboard ships and everything else. In fact the bloke I bought it from said I was the second best autoharp played in Dunedin. I asked who was the best and he said 'I am'. He was pretty good too. He's dead now so I must be the best. 290 INT DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THEM PARTICULARLY AS INFLUENCING YOU AT ALL? 460 +++ 3 text units out of 667, = 0.45% +++ Searching document int.Delargey, Edward J.... *SB: YEAH. THIS IS JUST AN OVERALL - A GENERAL QUESTION: HOW DO YOU THINK THE CHURCH HAS INFLUENCED YOUR LIFE? 1190 SB: HOW DO YOU THINK THAT THE CHURCH HAS INFLUENCED YOUR LIFE AND YOUR WAY OF LOOKING AND THINKING ABOUT THE WORLD? 1194 +++ 2 text units out of 1354, = 0.15% +++ Searching document int.Denford, Frank... FD: Yes, oh yes. One of my happiest recollections when I was just a child of five, we would have musical evenings. The, my father would play, he lived to play the concertina. My second eldest brother played the concertina, um, ah, my sister in law, my eldest brother's wife, she played the piano and she was a very good pianist and she used to play at the pictures in the old, silent picture place you see. Um, the picture theatres of course, didn't have wallisters[139], and they were silent movies and quite a number of pianists, including my sister in law, would play for the pictures. Well, in these other evenings we would have, my eldest sister's friend, fiance, as he was then, played the violin. Another chap played the FLUte and we would have our own entertainment and this was, of course, quite common because in those days there was no, no radio, radio didn't come in until 1922 and ah, which of course revolutioned, started to revolution the whole concept of ah, musical entertainment. The um, concerts that we would have at the Caversham church, or the Caversham church hall [LD: which church was this?] I beg your pardon? 85 FD: The Caversham Presbyterian Church, just around the corner from the old farm[150]. They would be quite an event and it would be quite a social gathering because it would be also, all was under the auspices of the church. Often the superintendent in my day, was the late Sir Thomas Sidey and ah, Lady Sidey of course, he wasn't then, I think it was just Thomas Sidey, he got the knighthood later, mainly on his bringing in the applicating and getting through Parliament the daylight saving bill and ah, he was really a great patron of the Caversham church, also a member of Parliament, you see and ah, they had a very strong inFLUence. Their influence in the district was very, very considerable. He was a very nice gentleman, an approachable type of chap, he was the late Sir Thomas. 89 FD: The older ones, no, they, because of my father being away and because of other associating inFLUences, they didn't go to church, ah, I suppose in those days they would be regarded as heathens and a bit of larkins but, what, yes, my sisters and my mother, my father wasn't a great churchman at all. He was, being English, he was I suppose you might say, officially Anglican but he ah, wasn't an active church member till later on years and he ah, got interested and became actually a manager of the Caversham Church before he died in 1926. My brother just older than me, he became the manager of the Caversham Church before he married and shifted away. My mother was a staunch supporter of the church. I suppose, I was sort of more or less, not literally, but expected and dragged along to church, I don't know that, so, it didn't much good but the general custom, ah, was for people to go to church. The church, because of, was um, a social, not only religious but a social outlet because of the closeness of people because of transport, the activities of the community were more or less, ah, to quite an extent devolving around the church and its activities. 132 *LD: WHAT ABOUT THE GREAT FLU, REMEMBER AT THE END THERE WAS THE GREAT FLU EPIDEMIC? 234 LD: DO YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT DIED IN THE GREAT FLU? 242 FD: Ah, yes, yes. I um, the FLU, when peace was declared on, what was it, November 11th 1918, we were right in the midst of a flu epidemic. The trams had ceased to run because there were so many of the staff, the conductors and drivers sick that the trams couldn't run and they, the place was semi-dead. I distinctly remember that I had to walk to town, we had walk because there was no tram service. There was no, ah, celebrations at that moment because there were too many people sick and had even dying. 244 LD: WHAT SORT OF PEOPLE WERE, WAS IT YOUNG PEOPLE, OR OLD PEOPLE, WHO WERE MOST AFFECTED BY THE FLU? 246 FD: The whole, people right throughout the community. Young and old. I had a bit of an attack of it. I felt pretty ill but of course I wasn't bad enough to, I don't even think that the doctor, but um, where it hit our family was that my sister, I mentioned before with nursing, she was ah, nursing at the public hospital here. She would be, what, in her second or third year of her training and she and her mate, ah, were, when it struck the epidemic, they nursed till they literally fell on their feet. The, my sister she got the FLU to the extent so severe that they didn't dare tell her that her mate had died of it, they reckon it would have killed her and um, ah, the, my sister was in a special ward in Nightingale ward, which has just recently been demolished, in the special there and she was delirious for weeks. She was literally blue with tubes in her back, draining off the fluid and ah, they cut her hair off to save it being, having to try and do it, she was so ill. She told us that it had got to the stage that she was so ill and then one day she said, if I don't try and do something about it, I'm going to die and from then she [123 inaudible] so she stuck it out, gradually got better. She'd been that ill, they gave her six months leave of absence afterwards to get over it. Her mate, she was buried over in the Andersons Bay, she's buried over there. And my sister told me, not many years before she died, she died about seven years ago, that so dreaded was the epidemic that the authorities said that on no account were the graves of epidemic victims to be opened for at least 50 years. [LD: help] That's how [LD:serious it was] how the impact was seen as a serious result. 248 Um, this mate of my sister, Eva Cooper, her name is on a memorial with four others in the foyer of the old, of the nurses home down, the old section. Asked to go in and have a look at it one day. I was just a little boy, my sister would bring her out, I'd be about 12, and Eva used to tease me as a little boy. Very nice, friendly, happy type of girl she was. So that's my contact of the FLU. 250 LD: Of the FLU, must have been dreadful. 252 FD: Ah, he, um, he never took an active part in politics although he was a member of the ah, PPA, or PPAA, Protestant Political Association which was very anti, ah, Catholic church. This was a, there was a chap named, Rev. Howard, I've forgotten his first name, he started this movement against the power of the Roman Catholic church and my father was, joined up with him and there was quite a large staunch PPTAist, Protestant Political Association and they ah, were against the inFLUence and the power and the well, the ah, work or the influence of the um, Catholic church. They alleged that a lot of the public service appointments were ah, Catholic motivated in this respect in that you'll have read were the late Sir Joseph Ward, who was what, Assistant Prime Minister or Prime Minister at one time, was quite a devout Catholic and a lot of the appointments to the public service were through his influence, rightly or wrongly. [LD: 158 inaudible] and this of course is old news, says where there's an [159 inaudible] there's a reaction and ah, this was a good deal for me, what was the motivation for following the PPA, but I think in the latter years he sort of, ah, while subsided from it, I don't think he changed his views. I don't know just what he would think now of the present day, where there is the coming together, which we saw on TV last night, the Anglican and the Bishop of Christchurch you see. I don't know what religion you are, it doesn't really matter, but you asked me and ah, that might give some indication of the feeling but generally in the area, we're talking about Caversham, ah, and of course I can only speak for my ah, intimate relationship with the people. 258 FD: I think it, knowing him, he would vote Liberal although ah, Bill Massey, he was the, Bill Massey, the soldiers called they wore the Bill Massey uniform, everything was Bill Massey you see, ah, quite different from, while we wouldn't say, we wouldn't say wear Rob Muldoon's boots, but in those days the soldiers would have their Bill Massey's on, see. The politicians or the Prime Minister, um, was far more, what shall I say, not exactly father of the family, but he was more a dominant figure in politics and in, I would say in the community. And of course with the war as most people like to hang something on the personality of their leadership, I would think that was the reason why Bill Massey, as such, was so much in people's thoughts and minds. There was more of, and I think this would apply to everything, there wasn't the same questioning of the actions and motivations of the leaders and this applied I would think, not only to politics but to your community generally. The fashion of questioning and even contradiction, is comparitvely ah, a recent thing Lucy. You did, or people did because well it was the thing to do. You were loyal, you were loyal to what you believed in, you ah, you appointed the rulers or they were appointed and well you did because it was there to be done. There was no question whether it was right, whether it was good, or whether it should be done. This didn't seem to come along and I think it is a good thing myself because in the old days, I shouldn't use this term but in the older days it led to a situation where the inFLUential and the wealthy could really exploit the lesser, fortunate people. Not that they could do much because the ah, the unions and what, um, counter corrected bodies did not exist. 268 FD: Ah, well, not as groups, no. No, I can't think of them. Excuse me for a moment, [433 inaudible]. [tape turns off] Many ah, like sort of community, we had at the back of our place, people by the name of Wizneskies[436] which were of German or Polish origin and ah, then we had at the bottom of our street people named Ollerenshaw, which of course would be, probably German. They would be first generation ah, if we remember that like my mother and father, that you might say were the second generation of immigrants there. The inFLUence, or the home influences, which they used to be called, were still quite ah, dominant, quite prevalent because some of them were of children of immigrants and of course in my father's case, straight out immigrants, although he missed being an early settler by two years. As you know, you had to be from 48 to 68, well he missed out by two years but ah, that is only a arbitrary line but the ah, children of my generation or ones older were still very much, of the home descent. My mother even was often taken, although she was born in New Zealand here, she was often taken for Scots, because she used Scots expressions like, akek[465], or akekinglass[468], know what this is? [LD: no] A looking glass you see. And grete, grete means to pry, Scotch for pry you see. And poke, do you know what a poke is? Well, a poke is where, and I used to go to Rutherfords, and I would want say, a truppence worth of pepper. Now, they wouldn't have bag, they'd get a piece of white paper, they'd twist it around their fingers to make what looked like a little ah, dunce's cap upside down, they'd twist the end and they would have ah, a little trowel and they would scoop and they would put the pepper in that and then press the top in. They often didn't use bags, they'd just use what we called a poke of pepper and ah, they would put that on the scales and weigh it. 327 +++ 13 text units out of 356, = 3.7% +++ Searching document int.Mrs MD... MD: World War was on, wasn't it - 1914-18 War was still - it was the year ... that when the soldiers were coming home we got that black plague, the bad FLU that was there. 209 MD: And our family seemed to have avoided it because we had all had a slight cough not long afore - all along, and when they wanted the extra people mum said, 'Oh, we've had a bad cold each, we won't get the FLU now', and people were dying all over the place, you - if you were sick you had to have a white flag hung at your gate, tied to your gate-post, so that they knew you needed, needed help. People wouldn't ride in the trams, they advised not to, there was more walking done in Dunedin that year than any time. 213 *MD: So you see, Gore was shot, you see all the time when that FLU was on, and we never went back to school or round about until March or something. 313 MD: Well, I'm trying to get myself from school and the long holiday we had for the - because of the, the FLU that was on. 349 C: Was the war over when that FLU - was the war over? It was still on, wasn't it, when the, the flu hit, that bad flu? 435 +++ 5 text units out of 2484, = 0.20% +++ Searching document int.Duncan, Dorothy... DD: I don't know what they thought was wrong. I know when she got to about six they put it down to home inFLUence. They put her in hospital. She was in hospital when she was two and she was in hospital when she was four and she was in hospital when she was six. 462 DD: They still put it down to home inFLUence you see. 474 It turned out that when she was born because she was so tiny her oesophagus hadn't joined up with her stomach properly. It wasn't getting down you see. She also had a hiatus hernia too. So she had quite a big operation I think it might have been about her second year at Teacher's College. She was more or less right after that once she got over that. All those years of being told it was home inFLUence and all the rest of it. 484 +++ 3 text units out of 645, = 0.47% +++ Searching document int.Fountain, Kathleen Vere... KF: And my, my mother's brother, who lived in the North Island for a while, he was the bank manager, when they were in a Otaki I think it was, he was - she taught Sunday school and he was, I don't - I think it was the church warden, and when they came to live in Dunedin they also went to St. Peter's, but they didn't worry about me, you know, they didn't try to inFLUence me at all. 1050 KF: But otherwise I don't - different friends have had an inFLUence on my life, I suppose, but I don't think any other experience. 1833 KF: Not important but it had an - definitely had an inFLUence on my way of life - 2019 KF: And I remember the inFLUenza epidemic when my mother sent me down to some depot with milk puddings. 2059 KF: And they probably would feel they weren't dressed properly. But I think on the whole it's had a good inFLUence on people. 2075 +++ 5 text units out of 2264, = 0.22% +++ Searching document int.Mrs MG... MG: It depends on what stage. We only had one room there with two shelves of library books. Some were my father's. There were classics. We had, I suppose, the recognised children's books like A. A. Milne and all those children's stories. When you went to high school you read Jane Eyre. I had to read Sir Walter Scott in the third form. I didn't enjoy it very much. Reading in later years was inFLUenced by the school and they had Shakespeare and all the rest. But now I'm quite a reader since I've got the time. 294 I'm great for a home visit because I think there's so much seen in general. The way a person keeps their house. I mean I've been round to homes where - I did Crippled Children's work too. There was another child sick with asthma and oh yes the pills were on the mantelpiece but the child's outside in the rain in the winter around Taupo. And this is going to cure it. Our treatment at home, plenty of FLUid and to bed because we didn't have the drugs. That was my father's treatment. But you won't get any common sense advice from the doctor at a Medical Centre these days. Take these pills home and that will fix it. As I say, this child's pills were sitting there and the child is outside half dressed in the cold and the wet. 375 +++ 2 text units out of 484, = 0.41% +++ Searching document int.Mrs RG... RG: These are the sort of things my father got involved in too because he was inFLUenced by him. 491 +++ 1 text unit out of 1829, = 0.05% +++ Searching document int.Grigg, Russell... G No. If you were off work you were off work and you didn't get paid for it. I was off work at Sparrows for some months. I think it was about six months. I had peritonitis. It was a result of the 1918 FLU. I had to make that time all up. If you worked overtime it wasn't counted on your time. You couldn't make it up by working overtime that wasn't counted like it is today. You had to serve five years and that was it. 263 *TB YOU MENTIONED THE FLU A MINUTE AGO. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THAT? 285 G I got the FLU to start off with. I got peritonitis as a result of the flu. 291 TB ANYONE ELSE IN YOUR FAMILY GET THE FLU? 297 TB SO YOU GOT THROUGH YOUR APPRENTICESHIP, YOU SURVIVED THE FLU. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU COMPLETED YOUR APPRENTICESHIP IN 1921? WHAT DID YOU DO THEN? 341 G Her father was an engineer but he had an accident and died. I never met him. Her mother also died of the FLU. One of her sisters died at the same time. 410 TB DID THEY PUT A FLUSH TOILET IN STRAIGHT AWAY? 503 TB SO YOU HAD ALL MOD COMS, ELECTRICITY, INSIDE FLUSH TOILET, HOT AND COLD RUNNING WATER AND ALL THOSE THINGS. 507 +++ 8 text units out of 845, = 0.95% +++ Searching document int.Ingram, C.W.N.... *SH:CAN YOU REMEMBER WHAT SORT OF INFLUENCE THE LOCAL HOTELS AND PUBS PLAYED ON THE COMMUNITY LIFE? DID YOUR FATHER GO OUT DRINKING WITH HIS MATES? 922 CI:Yes. The loyalty of the people in those days/the English inFLUence and Scottish was very, very strong in the community. I tell you how strong it was, an indication of how strong it was, on New Year's day and two days afterwards the Caledonian Society ran sports and they were remarkable events; they had every type of sport going, they had three kinds of wrestling, catch as catch can, Cumberland, Westmoreland and what was the other one, three types of wrestling. There was wood-chopping, wood sawing, piping, dancing, quoit-playing - metal quoits, there was cash cycling, cash running, every type of sport you could possibly think of and they would carry it on for the three days.f 1038 SH:CAN YOU TELL ME ANYTHING, YOU MENTIONED T.K. SIDEY BEFORE, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE FAMILY - WHAT SORT OF INFLUENCE DID THEY HAVE ON .. THEY HAD QUITE A LARGE LANDHOLDING IN THE AREA? 1189 SH:SO THEY HAD RATHER A LARGE SIZE INFLUENCE ON PEOPLE? 1197 CI:Oh yes I suppose they would have. On one side there was a brewery, Cowie's Brewery, that's mentioned in &... The next place there was a men's barber and he was married to my father's cousin. She was one of the Thorns, His name was South. Can't remember who was in the next place and then there was Philips and then there was a chap who had a sewing machine place, his daughter just died the other day, he lived up in a house, it is a very old house and it's mentioned in the "Edge of the Town", was the name and of course there was Rutherford's store, there's been three buildings there and McCracken's opposite and McCracken's still have an inFLUence in the grocery trade, they have I suppose a grandson who runs a grocery business on the corner of Duke Street and George Street. 1224 SH:JUST WHAT SORT OF INFLUENCE DID THEY WIELD? 1254 CI: They employed a few. They had a big grocery store and wood and coal yard and they had the opposition from McCracken's but they were here very early in the piece. They must've had some inFLUence on the community. 1256 CI: Oh I think more English. Because once that immigration started in the '70s there were more ships coming from England than from Scotland. Although a terrific number of Scots people came out here from Nova Scotia. There is a history book written by Dr McDonald called "The Highlanders of Waiapu". They had a great inFLUence on ship building in this country. 1300 CI: Oh yes. These people the first generation New Zealanders, the English and Scottish inFLUence on them was strong. And the Irish too. I think the Irish was stronger than any of the others because they were taught by Irish nuns and Irish priests and I'm afraid they only thought of mostly the Irish wrongs. 1312 SH: WHAT SORT OF INFLUENCE DID THAT HAVE ON THE PLACE? 1346 +++ 10 text units out of 1385, = 0.72% +++ Searching document int.Jeffries, Margaret... MJ: After he had gone back to Hillside he used to come home and he was cough, cough, cough, cough, coughing and the, the doctor didn't like this and they though it was the dust of the turnings that were ma - making the bomb passages or something out there and all the dust, and they thought it was that, he was into hospital - and I don't know how long he was in there ... and that - in those days you could only visit Mondays ... no, on Wednesdays, Saturdays and, and Sundays, but I think mum was allowed in this, this Friday he, he, dad said, you know, I want you to bring me some Aspros, you see, he said, I want to take some Aspros, mum said I can't do that. And I'm not sure whether it was ... it was the Monday the lady from the shop came up and said that dad had died. He had had a - oh, was it Friday, oh, I don't know now, and he had, uhm, they, they thought he might have had FLUid on his legs, but every time they pressed it, they - it didn't leave a mark, and he - this morning they washed him and sat him up in bed, and I'm not sure if he had his breakfast or not, and then he just collapsed. So it had to do perhaps more to - and he had an enlarged heart ... and one side of it had collapsed. This is - this was what it was. 1181 +++ 1 text unit out of 1427, = 0.07% +++ Searching document int.Mrs HJ... SB: DO YOU THINK THEY HAD QUITE A BIG INFLUENCE ON YOU, THE SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHERS? SUNDAY SCHOOL? 1186 HJ: Yes, but I think my own parents had the biggest inFLUence because they were in the home all the time and you, you just followed their example. 1188 SB: MMM. AND HOW ... HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR OWN RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES AND RELIGIOUS BELIEFS HAVE INFLUENCED YOUR LIFE AND YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE, GENERALLY? 1230 SB: WHAT - I MEAN ... WHAT DO YOU THINK THE GENERAL INFLUENCE OF YOUR RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING, OR CHRISTIAN UPBRINGING, HAS HAD ON YOUR LIFE? 1238 HJ: But it does inFLUence your whole ... everything you do. 1244 HJ: It inFLUences what you, what you do and how you do it. 1248 +++ 6 text units out of 1579, = 0.38% +++ Searching document int.Kennedy, James Ronayne... SB: YEAH. YEAH. JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS TO FINISH: HOW HAS YOUR PARTICULAR RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING INFLUENCED YOUR ATTITUDE TO OTHER PEOPLE? 908 RK: No, I think it's the inFLUence of your parents and the neighbourhood and the children you grew up with, which I was very lucky to have in my day. 914 RK: Well I think it could have been --- religion generally could have been a lot stronger, because there is so many people even today who've got no religion. And they haven't had the opportunity and there's a lot who have had and just dropped it. But I do think religion is - well I'm hoping it will play a bigger part. As I say now, the different religious organisations joining together and everybody being more concerned with what's happening in the world, I think its going to have a big inFLUence, well I hope it will. I mean there's still wars - look at this Palestinian. Between two countries that are supposed to be religious. You know. And all they're doing is battering one another to death. But I don't blame the people there, it's the politicians I think have caused it all. Nobody will give way. It's a jolly shame. No, I think religion could, if it was sort of promulgated a bit more by the people in power - like the parliamentarians - not that it will ever happen - if they occasionally said, now look, just get together and try and be a bit more complacent, be a bit happier with one another and say a few prayers for one another instead of bashing one another all the time. That's it. That's how it goes. 918 +++ 3 text units out of 925, = 0.32% 824 +++ 1 text unit out of 1048, = 0.10% +++ Searching document int.Marlow, Kevin... SB: RIGHT. SO IF --- WERE THERE ANY --- I MEAN YOUR PARENTS WERE OBVIOUSLY VERY INFLUENTIAL, WERE THERE ANY OTHER SORT OF PEOPLE, MAYBE A PRIEST OR SOMEONE THAT WAS INFLUENTIAL IN SORT OF MAKING YOUR BELIEVE WHAT YOU DID AS YOU WERE GROWING UP? 595 KM: I don't doubt that for a moment. You listen to them in the service. Some days you wouldn't take much notice what they're saying, but being a young one, your mind wandering a wee bit. No I think all the priests were inFLUential in some ways. Some of them we would agree with, say "oh he shouldn't have said that." [Indistinct] mean you gotta do this or that. But they weren't major things, just minor little things. Even it was just about whether you wear your, take your hat off when you went into church, or whether you should leave it on, silly things. 597 KM: But no, I think the priests were inFLUential because they were to us were representatives of our faith, they were here representing the Pope, right down the list sort of thing. Oh no, we respected them. 601 +++ 3 text units out of 726, = 0.41% +++ Searching document int.Mr LM... *SB: RIGHT. I'VE JUST PROBABLY GOT ONE OR TWO QUICK AND VERY GENERAL QUESTIONS. GENERALLY HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR CHRISTIAN UPBRINGING HAS SHAPED AND INFLUENCED YOUR LIFE? I MEAN OBVIOUSLY, IN A WAY IT IS YOUR LIFE. 1205 LM: No. Not a lot. No. . . . You were talking about that Communist inFLUence, I would have thought that - and I don't want to label Unionism, Communism, but that was uhm during that time the '20s, '30s when Unionism had to take over some power and make the worker's demands known to government, because no employer really, or very few, I daren't say, no - most employers wouldn't really listen to an individual or workers demands, requests, whatever, no matter how reasonable they were. And so there were those who were influenced by the rise of Unionism. But we're getting into murky waters there. 1613 +++ 2 text units out of 1842, = 0.11% +++ Searching document int.Maskell part 1... I can remember that he always had instruction books, how to win friends and inFLUence people. 114 it. We had to make our own fun because it was an awful pernicious system. We had him for two consecutive periods .. he must've taken us for French and I can remember seeing chaps come out and their faces would relax, they would be taut and some of the younger ones would have quite a FLUsh. It was a tense period, you were on the spot. He had your attention but when I come to think of it now we'd have been massacred if he'd known what we were doing behind his back. 335 RM: No, one of the boarders we met through Miss Guy, she probably inFLUenced me as much as anyone. And my friends at school. I applied to go into the Bank and I went down to see the Accountant... thanked me for coming in he said but we had decided to accept a boy in my class we would be interested in taking you on in June as a bank clerk in six months. 509 +++ 3 text units out of 722, = 0.42% +++ Searching document int.Maskell part 2... *MW:WHAT ABOUT THE 'FLU EPIDEMIC IN ABOUT 1919, 1920? 86 MW:YOU WEREN'T AFFECTED BY THE 'FLU EITHER? 106 :Probably so. It was just that it was a question of trust. We didn't trust them. The only thing now, here's another thing, I played rugby at primary school but around about 1922, '23 the primary schools split up, the rugby organisation split up and the Otago State Primary School Sports Association was formed and Christies were on the outer, the Otago state primary schools it was. Now it's the Otago they've dropped the word 'state' in the last few years but it was only at secondary school level that you played against christies primary. Even now St. Edmunds don't take part in the Saturday morning and don't take part in the ordinary primary school matches I don't think. It was bigotry on both sides perhaps as much as in the primary school sides because there were some dour old headmasters you know, pillars of the church type you know, would be watching for the slightest overweight boy or some funny business..and I think probably it was run on a pretty intense sort of scheme, points being given and all that type of thing, highly competitive so naturally there would be clashes but it got to a stage where they just separated. Whether that's inFLUenced my thinking I wouldn't know. It probably has. You tried for years to get it integrated and didn't get any help at all. ... opposition which has now been overcome thank goodness. 192 MW:IN WHAT WAY DID YOUR PARENTS INFLUENCE YOU? 431 RM:In some cases or they would have a gardener. Not so much there. I think that's how we got the jobs, cleaning silver, they would have enough money to pay someone to do it but not to employ someone all the time so anybody like myself offered they were only too happy ... I think that ...probably had an inFLUence on me that I tended to join in with any organisation I'd join and I think it was the very fact that I was happy to earn money to get to the Jamboree going and to get myself to it because I'm pretty sure Mum and Dad would've been the types to say for a start 'we'll think about it' but they did let me go, they would've let me go even if I hadn't earned any money I think so that was the idea. 498 +++ 5 text units out of 743, = 0.67% +++ Searching document int.Mr JRMM... SB: SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WAR HAD QUITE AN INFLUENCE ON THE WAY DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS VIEWED EACH OTHER, DO YOU THINK? 171 SB: NOT MUCH. WERE THERE ANY OTHER SORT OF CHRISTIAN PERSONALITIES THAT INFLUENCED YOU A LOT? OR IMPRESSED YOU A LOT? 569 JM: Oh I think it had a terrific inFLUence on the community, now, that's partly, the churches lost any power it had, and of course different groups have taken over from the church like Lions and all these different organisations. See, Lodges have disappeared too now. I think the church has - once what the church said in the community, that was it. But now the . . . not now. Christianity, whether they like it or not, has slowly, but surely disappeared, and whether it comes back or not --- one good things that brings Christianity back to life again is a War, isn't it? 611 +++ 3 text units out of 649, = 0.46% +++ Searching document int.Mrs NN... JN: Because I was over there not so long ago with my other son, and, and my cousin that writes to me, and she said, 'I've been down helping so and so', and I can remember my mother, you know, going in and helping people if they needed it, and I think that was quite - the, the difference, you, you know, because I can always remember my mother helping the lady next door and she was a big woman, and mother was, oh she was about my size, and, and I can - my mother, oh she used to go in every morning and help her and see what she could do for her and all the rest of it, and this friend of hers come in and she said, well, and 'cause my mother didn't have much colour, and this other lady 'cause she was in bed and 'cause she had, well, she'd be FLUshed, you see, and she said, 'Well to tell you the truth, it looks as if my, my mother should be in that bed and this other lady looking after her'. 1518 JN: Well, dusting and, you know, you didn't have a, a, a lux or anything like that, and so - well, and you have to polish the floor and, and, and if you missed a day going under the, under the bed, well, the next day she was pretty FLUffy, because I think we had - they were kapok, you know, the, the old mattresses, and, and honestly to goodness, if you missed a day, you know, you could see it lying under the bed. So that had to be done too, but I, you know, I just used to mop that mostly, but once a week I sort of went through properly, and did it properly. 1926 +++ 2 text units out of 2248, = 0.09% +++ Searching document int.Norman, Annie... TB: It's a funny thing the FLU, it seems as if - 1184 TB: That had the FLU on it. 1290 +++ 2 text units out of 3011, = 0.07% +++ Searching document int.Mr TR... TR: I, myself have always greatly respected the female. I've greatly admired them --- in general, they're so different, in as much as they have that secret knowledge that they are capable of something that no men will ever be capable. And those - not capable, the men and the women join together. But I've always accepted that their role is so special, I've always respected women for that reason. When they make themselves, as some women do, go overboard, or they get into strange habits or bigotries which you cannot argue with, I don't like the situation quite so much. But I think there's a loveliness there, that is God ordained of course, its meant to be like that.And also in times of stress, that the mental toughness of women is probably greatly superior to men's. And men will collapse and pack in with the loss of the grip of things. And give in. But there's something rises up in a women which is a result of giving birth I suppose, that they know that the end is not yet, and they keep going. Men, I think, find excuses not to. And I think it's greatly regrettable that this kind of respect - the female side of things has so disappeared and men can be so blatantly arrogant and insensitive.And I am sorry what is going on in politics at the present time is so shocking too. But another man and I wrote a protest to the Matrimonial Act that went up to the Select Committee. And I got a letter back, not long ago, from a woman member of parliament, saying: "we've lost the War, but we haven't lost the battle", and we want to continue because --- I'm onto politics now, and I shouldn't be but - there's a move to have the provisions of this matrimonial, revised, withheld until there has been a proper debate of same sex marriages. And I am immediately going to see a man on Monday, we're going to set a petition up about that too. And I asked this woman in reply to her letter: "tell me what's happened, can we? Show me what the evidence is and what you're talking about?" So she sent me a clipping down from the evening --- Wellington paper, Evening Post. And who should be in the picture, but this jolly Labour MP in Christchurch, he's a homosexual, Simon --- what's his name? I can't remember now. But he's the one that's instigated this and he's got a lot of inFLUence everywhere and the way he is so positive and speaks so well and looks such a nice guy, but this is obscene. And so this is my stance. How possibly can you irreverence with the human body and the human species to bring that kind of thing up. Never mind. Let's get on. 354 TR: Not a lot. Not a lot. But that is just my experience. And obviously there'd be people to whom these men were ministering in their own homes. I presume the title that did this - the job description was the same all the way through those years. The Anglican situation is quite different of course. They have regimented, strict structure in which each of these guys is required to abide by the 39 articles which appear in the back of the Prayer Book when they're ordained, and it seems to me that that is a construction, or a constriction, which very alarmingly often stops them being the men that they could be. And that's just a comment. There's nothing wrong with the articles as such. It's just the inFLUence that happens as a result of that. 516 +++ 2 text units out of 569, = 0.35% +++ Searching document int.Roberts, Rose... Int WHAT ABOUT THE FLU EPIDEMIC? WERE YOU AFFECTED BY THAT? 314 RR Yes that was bad. We lost quite a few people round about from that. I had it for a wee while. I had about six weeks off work but nothing serious. That was a terrible time that big FLU. Then the Depression was another bad time. We've had a few ups and downs but we always came out on top. But the Depression was a horrible thing. But I was never out of work. 316 +++ 2 text units out of 353, = 0.57% +++ Searching document int.Roebuck, Lew... LR Yes. He worked at the tram sheds. We lived in Peter Street, Caversham. The house is not there now, it changes every time I go down to Dunedin. I thought it was good when I read in the paper that you were after a bit of history. I have vivid memories of the great epidemic. My mother took the FLU. I thought it was a marvellous thing. She went to the hospital but I didn't understand it all. I'd be turning just 8 or 9. My Dad got a pillowcase, put it on the end of a broom handle. I didn't know the house was under isolation. 5 LR The strange thing about the FLU from what I can make out is that not many old people actually died of it, it tended to be men in their prime. 23 LR No we didn't have a piano. I'll tell you why. We were afFLUent because on the poor side they could afford to entertain kids with lots of picnics and things. Whereas other kids I know darned well didn't have much. Some of them had pianos. I remember the gramophone. One or two of the houses had a gramophone. That was coming up in the world. 417 +++ 3 text units out of 438, = 0.68% +++ Searching document int.Rutherford, Mr & Mrs... I: AH, YES. WHAT ABOUT THE FLU EPIDEMIC AT THE END OF THE WAR? DID YOU GET THE FLU? 573 +++ 1 text unit out of 625, = 0.16% +++ Searching document int.Shiel, Gerald... I:DID YOUR RELATIVES INFLUENCE YOU IN ANY WAY, DID YOU SEE A LOT OF THEM OR ..EXTENDED FAMILY OR...? 621 I:WHAT ABOUT THE 'FLU EPIDEMIC FROM 1918 TO 19 ...? 886 +++ 2 text units out of 1011, = 0.20% +++ Searching document int.Shiel, Miss... AB:AND DID THEY HAVE MUCH INFLUENCE ON YOUR FAMILY? 219 AB:DO YOU THINK MINISTERS AND PRIESTS, THE PRESBYTERIAN AND THE ANGLICANS, DO YOU THINK THEY HAD MUCH INFLUENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, DID PEOPLE LISTEN TO THEM MUCH? DO YOU THINK THEY DO? 1190 AB:WHAT ABOUT THE 'FLU EPIDEMIC? 1284 Miss S:Oh don't mention it. Now this is rather interesting. Opposite the brickyards where all those houses are now there was a great big tar .. they had a tar business you know for the brickworks and that sort of thing and anybody that lived round there didn't get the 'FLU. Dad used to make them take shovels of tar and light it and go through the houses. 1286 AB:AND NOBODY GOT THE 'FLU? 1296 Miss S:No no one got the 'FLU. ..and when it was bad they closed the schools and everything and we were sent up to the farm at Heriot. 1298 +++ 6 text units out of 1349, = 0.44% +++ Searching document int.Sidey, Stuart... My father told me an interesting thing, 'cause this is going back nowadays - early days when people had septic tanks. Incidentally one had a septic tank up at Caversham Valley Road and down all over Corstorphine harbour, but experts came to demonstrate for the, the power of this wonderful septic tank at the Benevolent Institution, and just to prove how good it was, he drank the FLUid out of it. I don't know what happened to him, I suppose he's all right, he must have doing that for them all. 179 SS: Well, I was brought up in the Presbyterian church, eh ... but, you know, just because the family like so many people go to church because they join or because other people do without really, without really being, uhm, involved in religion as such, and there was a, a woman whi - a great old friend of mother's, who had stayed in our house sort of helping out, and she was a Christian Science student, and she inFLUenced me or told me about it, and that changed my life entirely. A different perspective of everything. Does that sound strange? 479 SS: Strawberry FLUff with cream, that's lovely too. 693 MC: GOOSEBERRY FLUFF? 699 SS: Gooseberry FLUff and cream, boy, you don't see those things now. 701 MC: I'M SURE THAT HAS THE MOST INFLUENCE. HEREDITARY [INDISTINCT]. NOW ... 715 +++ 6 text units out of 807, = 0.74% +++ Searching document int.Mrs ZO... ZS: Ah, 14. I went to St Clair. I've just been working on it because we've got this centenary coming up and I was 14 when I got my, we had proficiencies in those days, and it was the time of the exhibition, you know South Seas Exhibition, well my father as I told you,he always like to have a finger in a lot of pies, he got into the amusement park and he had a thing called the periods, pulled the rolled downs, you know those roll downs and he was very artistic and he didn't just give you boxes of chocolates or FLUffy dolls, he had the most beautiful china and stuff. 51 ZS: Oh yes, 'cause mother was over (41?), Herman used to say to me, the other time, when I went in and this big operation, Nellie came up here and kept house for Herman and the two kids, and dad used to come up each night and have his meals here, and he said that he's never seen the house so clean, 'cause I had my nose in a book you see. Never forget reading, what will we do with that damn phone, you know she had to polish and she scrubbed and with so many of us, when she did the washing, she would have to ah get them dry, ironed and back on the beds again, 'cause she didn't have much of a supply (MC: mmm). It FLUctuated sometimes if the old man went to a sale, he would come home with householdlinen or something like that and ah it was all of the kids. She was, she kept the place you know as I said, Herman said that he'd never seen the place so clean. She just couldn't keep still, she had to be polishing, she loved to be, I've seen her at 12 o'clock at night, her poor old legs with the veins up here, barefeet, singing away and ironing. 923 The Fish and Ag, you know the Agriculture Department, the first one there, they had a model of Telford Farm (MC: mmm) and it was the good farmer and the bad one you see. The good farmer he organised the efFLUent run-off from the cowshed, now remember that, and what he did, you know we gradually got, he didn't pollute the waters but the bad farmer, he didn't bother about doing things right you see, and he had pugin and messin and all that you see. And it was kids, the moment you see, give them something to touch, they're in with their hands, feet and everything. So I just started talking to them about the bad farmer and the good farmer and what they did, you see, and then about two days, this went on for well over a week, in the end we were doing them for a fortnight, that's from nine to school finishing hours, for a fortnight and we used to put 5000 kids through, from all over. 963 +++ 3 text units out of 1071, = 0.28% +++ Searching document int.White, J... JW: Well my father died in 1918 in the FLU epidemic and Mum was left with three little children. There was no help then so she went back to her mother. Her mother took us in. So there was no widow's benefit in those days. That's why we went there and just stayed on and on and on. Just didn't venture out. That sort of worked. My grandparents were very good to us and all that. 64 +++ 1 text unit out of 1026, = 0.10% +++ Searching document int.Wilkinson, Isabel... IW: No, I think it was decided between the, the two of them, [indistinct] decisions to be made, and they'd come to some conclusion. The, probably, probably the male side perhaps being more in business, the men would have more inFLUence perhaps. 577 +++ 1 text unit out of 591, = 0.17% +++ Searching document int.Wilson, Florence... FW: Yes, so we always understood. When mother was twelve and of course they lived in a two-storied house in London, mother would just have to be up on the balcony upstairs and two men came to the house and told my grandparents that there was a great deal of money evidently through land that the railway had passed through in Kent. Now this money of course was on grandmother's side. There was great excitement, mother was going to be sent to a boarding school and you can imagine what excitement there was because they weren't in afFLUent circumstances. But in those days the wife could not take any action, women didn't have the power to do so, my grandfather was at a strange temperament and if something was put into his lab, well he accepted it, but he would not go and search about this. So many years later in New Zealand, this was after my mother was married, she and father decided to send a letter to London to the Chancery Department enquiring about this money. They sent a small sum, but reply came that it would need a further sum of money to continue the search. 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