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JB: Well South Dunedin is 'the flat'. What they call 'the flat'.  Well, the 
LEBANESE were all on the flat. 
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JB: And with the hills - the LEBANESE there were Roman Catholics,  even though 
they mixed together a lot. They'd come out to our place, we'd go to their place. 
But it was the church. We had our church and they had their church. In those 
days  you couldn't go --- they couldn't come to our church and we couldn't go to 
their church. 
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JB: Uh . . . there was the odd --- there was the letters now and  then. But uh . 
. .
after a while there was nothing, you know. But mum and dad - they  used to get 
up at, what was it? Three o'clock in the morning, and they'd put shortwave  on 
and they had a Philips radio and they used to get the LEBANESE talking and that 
from  Lebanon.               92
JB: Hmm. Three o'clock in the morning. Every morning they'd get up  and listen 
to it. Yeah. Yeah. But mum, she could write it, she could read it, where dad  
couldn't. He couldn't read English or anything. He could talk, you know, 
LEBANESE,  and he talked English. And you couldn't put nothing --- if you --- 
like with him  being in the shop, you know --- but no, you couldn't fool him 
with money. Yeah. 
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SB: AND SHE COULD WRITE THE LEBANESE AND ENGLISH? 
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JB: Yeah. Yeah.I don't know how true it is - there used to be a boxer  - he used 
to be one of the best boxers in the world - Pete Saran, who was LEBANESE.  But 
someone said he was dad's cousin, but that's as far as it went. Nobody was sure.  
136 JB: Put rice and meat and other stuff - that's a LEBANESE meal. Yeah.  And 
they were lovely the grape leaves. You'd never believe it. Oh, we have them  
here.                     
264 SB: So it sounds like the LEBANESE cooking was . . . 
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JB: It was all LEBANESE cooking for us. 
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JB: And charge --- they used to charge, for one little piece, damn  near enough 
to $3! Mum used to do it for the --- mum used to do it for the LEBANESE on  the 
flat.               312 JB: Oh yeah, for her sister. Corban Wines. Corban Wines 
was my uncle  and aunty. She married A A Corban - he was the wine fellow. He 
married my mother's  sister. Yeah. Aunty Julie. Yeh. But mum --- it was all done 
around mum - you know, the  work was there and mum would do it.And the same as I 
say, on New Year's Eve was 'first  footy' - what they called the 'first footy', 
the LEBANESE in those days. They'd go from  place-to-place and the table was 
set, everywhere you went. It was all Lebanese stuff. 
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JB: You'd go round all the LEBANESE on the flat just about. 
328
SB: WHERE DID YOUR MOTHER GET ALL THE OTHER LEBANESE INGREDIENTS  FROM?
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JB: Hmm. They used to love coming around there. And they'd play ---  they'd have 
this LEBANESE game like Draughts and what-not. And then they'd play  something 
else and then they'd play Mazeravere and uhm, that could go for three or four 
hours  playing Mazeravere - maybe two schools, maybe three schools. And then 
after that they'd  have their dinner and they'd keep on playing till 12 o'clock 
and then they'd turn  around and tell Lebanese stories. 
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JB: Which I wish we would have been allowed to stay up to listen to,  but we 
weren't allowed, you see. Mum wouldn't let us stay up that late. But it was a  
pity. A lot of it was done in the LEBANESE language.        
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SB: YEAH. SO THESE SOCIAL ACTIVITIES - YOU'D BE MIXING A LOT WITH THE  ROMAN 
CATHOLIC LEBANESE UP WALKER STREET WAY? 
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JB: Oh the LEBANESE Ball. 
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JB: But we used to have what they called the LEBANESE picnic. 
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SB: SO THESE LEBANESE PICNICS - WHEREABOUTS WOULD YOU GO FOR THEM? 
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SB: THE OLD PEOPLE WHO WOULD ALL BE TALKING IN LEBANESE AND THINGS? 
460
JB: Oh, no way. I mean, Carroll Street - it might be, like, some of  the 
Pakehas, but not the LEBANESE. I mean, you couldn't --- well, I never heard one 
of  them for the time I was going up there, argue. And that's honest. And I mean 
they lived  mostly in Carroll Street. There were some in Stafford Street and 
round and about, but  they might have arguments, I wouldn't know, but everybody 
has arguments, no matter  what nationality is, you know. But as far as I can 
remember, I uh, I enjoyed going up  there. I used to go up there on a Sunday 
night and mix with them, and it was only when I joined Zingari-Richmond that I 
sort of got friends from the Club and we'd go  out. Instead of going up to 
Carroll Street on a Saturday night or a Sunday night,  we'd go out to our own
dos, you know. Go out to a dance or anything like that. 
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SB: RIGHT. WOULD THAT BE JUST YOU LEBANESE KIDS OR ALL DIFFERENT KIDS  GO DOWN 
THERE?        504
JB: But he was a real --- you know, you'd think he was a LEBANESE the  way he 
used to carry on. Oh yeah, he was lovely. 
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SB: SO WAS IT A BIG DEAL FOR ONE OF THE LEBANESE TO MARRY A  NON-LEBANESE?
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JB: See, you take my brothers - there was only two of them that  married a 
LEBANESE girl - that was Walter and Nick - Nicholas. The eldest and the second  
oldest.                    526
JB: Oh sorry, and Tony - Mary, my sister's husband, he was LEBANESE,  Millie's 
brother.      530
SB: I GUESS WHEN YOU'VE GOT NINE BROTHERS, AND THERE WOULDN'T BE TOO  MANY 
LEBANESE GIRLS ON THE FLAT, WAS THERE? 
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JB: It was only three of them in the family, that married LEBANESE.  All the 
others was Pakeha, Maori. That's about it, yeah. 
542
SB: I WANTED TO ASK YOU HOW IMPORTANT RELIGION WAS TO YOUR PARENTS?  TO THE 
LEBANESE COMMUNITY BACK THEN? 
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JB: No, no, St Michaels. We used to go there and clean the church.  All take 
turns. All the families, you know. And then me brother Les, he was the altar boy  
there and he was at Holy Cross, he was altar boy there.But uh, no, Canon Webb, 
he was  well and truly liked by the LEBANESE community. You couldn't have got a 
better  fellow than him. You know, he was just - well put it like this - he was 
one of us. You  know. Even though he was a Pakeha, he was always one of us. He'd 
help you all if you had  any trouble, you know, he was good. And that's how he 
became to be in those days,  Canon Webb. You very seldom get a Canon - like, 
ministers now. In those days - he was a  real gentleman. You know, if you were 
walking down the street and he passed you, he'd  know you. He wouldn't snub you 
no matter what it was - he'd speak to ya. Because mum - mum  was a great worker 
for the church - for his church too, plus her own. Yeah.They'd go  there and 
Canon Webb, you know, it's hard to say of him, you know, he was a gentleman. 
Even  though he come once a month on a Sunday, the church was packed. And then 
after it  was all over Lottie Amuni, she would give the service in Lebanese with 
the older people.  They really loved, you know. Yeah. 
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SB: YOU ALL STAYED BEHIND TO DO IT AGAIN IN LEBANESE?                     
576
JB: Oh yeah, oh yes. He was just about as bad as mum. Oh yes.He used  to stand 
there, just as you got in the door and you'd have Uncle Jack Idour, mother's  
sister's husband, and mum's brother would be on this side, uncle Tony Howley, 
and dad  would be in the centre, and they'd stand up in the service right 
through. And had all  these things here, when everyone comes in you light a 
candle. They've got all these  things. That lot standing there. And everyone 
comes along and lights a candle. Oh no,  it was really good. It was an education 
in those days, you know, especially for a  religion. We wished we had of known a 
lot more. Well I did anyhow - about it, you know. Because  we couldn't 
understand a lot of what Lottie was saying, you know, in LEBANESE.  But uh, no, 
it was lovely. Millie would tell you that. We used to have some nice  services. 
But the best service, was as I was telling you, was me sister's. When she got  
married. Oh, man. It was phenomenal. The English crowd, I mean the Pakeha's, the 
street  was just packed. You'd never believe it. 
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JB: And it wasn't that too - it was the first LEBANESE wedding in  Dunedin. And 
it was taken by, oh - I can't remember his name - he scared us, he had a  bloody 
big white beard, and oh man, I used to get scared of him, you know.  634 JB: You 
put the onion skins all around them and they go really brown  and shiny and uhm, 
I'd have a little bag going to church - we all would - all the family  - have so 
many eggs each - might be half a dozen, eight or nine - even more you  know. And 
the Greeks - they used to do theirs in cochineal - red, yellow and all this and  
that. 'Cause we'd go there and you'd just have it like that and you hold the egg  
underneath there and you'd just have a little bit showing there and the Greeks 
come along and  they try and break it, crack it. And if they don't crack and 
they crack theirs, you grab  theirs. And that's how they used to do it. Each one 
would go cracking. If you broke  theirs - you'd have two go's - you've got two 
ends of the egg - well you'd - it might be the  LEBANESE that you play with - 
you crack that one and then they have a turn at you. And  then they use their 
good side, and if they don't crack it, then you'd had it, you got two  cracks in 
your egg. It was real good. You'd never believe it. It was just one of  those 
things. And they'd have their own Easter cake - their own, what they'd bake. All  
this-and-that. They'd have crosses. And circles and all different . . .  694 JB: 
Yeah. Yeah. So, there's a LEBANESE woman here, a friend of ours,  she came this 
year and made us the Easter cakes and then she showed Margaret what to do.  So 
now we know. I miss me sister Mary and me sister Sadie - every Easter Mary used 
to  send me up a tin from Dunedin. Yeah. Every Easter she sent me a tin from 
Dunedin. And  then Sadie, she lived in Christchurch, just round the corner here, 
she'd do some too  you see. And of course when Mary me sister died that was no 
more and then when Sadie  died that was it - haven't done for seven years. But 
Mary Haas come along and I said to  her 'can you come round and show Margaret 
what to do?' and she said, 'yeah'. So I still  --- we've still carried it on 
ever since I've been here, even in the North Island -  married to Margaret and 
down here, carried it on. No fish --- no meat on a Friday.  
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JB: I do that for Darryl. He loves that. With a wee bit of the olive  oil. But 
it was just those things you picked up, you know, as time went on. But even  
Margaret she knows what to do. She can make the Kibbi and Mushie and the Kussi, 
but she  can't make the sweets, you know. I don't expect her to do that, because 
it's a bit  hard for her. We can have --- there's a LEBANESE book out - cooking 
books if you want to,  but it doesn't --- it's not the same, even when you cook 
it, it's not the same what mum  used to do, I don't know, different ideas I 
suppose. 
710
SB: OKAY. JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE GENERAL LEBANESE  COMMUNITY. DID A 
LOT OF THE FAMILIES LIVE QUITE CLOSE TOGETHER IN THE SOUTH DUNEDIN AREA? 
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SB: DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE? DID A LOT OF THE LEBANESE PEOPLE GO  THERE? OR 
WAS IT JUST A MIXTURE OR . . .? 
760
SB: DID ALL THE LEBANESE PEOPLE HELP EACH OTHER OUT DURING THAT TIME? 
I MEAN WAS THERE A LOT OF - LIKE, SAY, ADESS, WOULD HE HELP OUT THE FAMILY AND 
THINGS  LIKE THAT?               876
JB: Yeah. Yeah. But uh, if dad had got something off him and we could  afford 
it, he'd have gave it him back in any case. But George was one of the luckiest  
ones - I don't suppose lucky, but I don't know what he worked at - I don't know 
what  he'd done. But to get where he was, well it was great, you know, even 
though he was a  LEBANESE. But he was a nice fella, but he just had his ideas 
and . . . 
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SB: YEAH. YEAH. JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT QUESTION NOW: I'M  WONDERING, BACK 
THEN, DID LEBANESE ---  DID YOU, GROWING UP AS LEBANESE, DID YOU FEEL DIFFERENT  
FROM OTHER PEOPLE? WAS THERE A SENSE OF DIFFERENCE? WERE YOU, SORT OF, PERHAPS, 
YOU KNOW  - WAS THERE A BIT OF --- ANY PERCEPTIONS OF LEBANESE PEOPLE . . .? 
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JB: Yeah.  We didn't say it nasty. We just said, 'oh well, we love  being 
LEBANESE', and that's all --- well you couldn't do anything else. I mean, it was  
really bad. You'd be there and some of the school kids'd tease me in the yard - 
"G'day you  Syrian B's" and all this and that. But well, after a while, when I 
got out of Forbury  School and I went to Macandrew Road Intermediate, it was 
different altogether.  Different environment altogether. You know, everyone 
treated one another as the same. And  as I said - as mum said: "just say dark is 
beautiful". But we weren't actually dark. We  were tanned and all that. You 
don't see much of it now, but we were really tanned and you  know what-not.        
890 JB: Yeah. Me second eldest brother, Walter. Yeah. He used to go  there. And 
that's how we got to know a few of the Chinese community was through SingWah and  
his family and their relations. And we'd go up - Abe and I, we might be walking 
past and  say: "hey Sing!". And he'd go: "hey, how'ya? come on!". And we'd go in 
there and he'd  give us a banana or give us an apple, whatever was going, you 
know. He was great with mum  and dad.Mum and dad were good - liked to make 
friends - you take the Massettis in the  hotel - the St Kilda Hotel. They're 
Italians, and of course their meals - there's  just about, something about ours, 
you know, well, some of them are. Then they used to come  down every now and 
then, not all the time, and they'd have a meal with mum and dad -  LEBANESE 
meal. They loved the meals. 
938
JB: Yeah. They loved a LEBANESE meal. And Bill Massetti, he's  godfather - this 
is one of the son's, - to my nephew. 
942
JB: So this day, Mary and Margaret, they'd been to the LEBANESE  church and they 
were coming back. They rung the bloody bell! They did. They rung it. And  of 
course I go out and I open the door nice and gently, you know, see who it is. 
And I  looked around and it was them - Margaret, me own wife, and Mary, me 
sister. And I said:  "gosh!" And the church crowd's coming along the road 
further. And I said: "gee, go  on, quick, get away!" They were laughing like 
hell. I really enjoyed that. I had a good  job. It was lovely there. And that's 
why with the Italians, Bill was like one of the  family - him and Fred they were 
like brothers - my brother died when he was 37, they were  like brothers. Both 
of them were. Wayne - that's Wayne Idour - both of them were Wayne's  godfather. 
Oh, they were a nice family. Especially his mother and father, they were a 
lovely family.  954
THE GENERAL LEBANESE COMMUNITY - WHAT WOULD YOU SAY --- WERE THERE  CERTAIN 
THINGS THAT CHARACTERISED THE LEBANESE? MAYBE THEIR CHARACTER OR THEIR 
LIFESTYLE?  WHAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY BACK THEN? 
1034
JB: Oh well. Yeah. I don't know. Well they all got on well together  as far as I 
was concerned all my life in Dunedin for 21 years, they all got on well  
together. You never heard any bickering, and I mean, the Roman Catholics and the  
Anglicans, we all got on well together. And you went to visit their places and 
all that - the  houses. And you'd have a cup of tea or something like that. Soon 
as you were in they'd  make cups of tea for you and very sociable no matter 
where you went in the LEBANESE  community. No, they were . . . --- well as far 
as I was concerned they were just like a  Pakeha.                1036 JB: There 
was no difference in them. I mean some of them might have  been a wee bit better 
than the Pakeha, I don't know. The Pakeha might have been a  wee bit better than 
us, but you never heard any arguments. Never heard any arguments. I  can't 
remember ever having arguments uhm . . . seeing them with Pakehas and having  
arguments. And they used to mix with the Pakehas. They used to go --- you take 
the football  clubs and all of that - the soccer. And the League in those days. 
A lot of LEBANESE played  League in those days. Yeah. They were really good 
mixers. You couldn't say that they  weren't. For their religion - that was their 
religion and that was our religion and  there was nothing --- It was just like, 
you're still brothers and sisters, the whole lot of  yous. See, I've got a 
friend in Dunedin now, Alan, and we're not even related, but we  call each other 
brother. He's Lebanese, but we call each other brother, we've been  like that 
for years. We knocked around for a time when I was away from Dunedin.  1040 JB: 
Even though you go away from Dunedin - like, I was up the North  Island for 16 
years. When I come back down we were still the best of friends. You know,  you 
just . . . there was no thing about it, they just invite you up. They used to 
invite  Margaret up there and what-not. They liked Margaret, up there, yeah. In 
Carroll Street.  It was just one of those good things.I mean, you never forget. 
But you never forget your  nationality, I mean, you're proud of it. As I say, 
when I went to adopt me boy and  me girl, I had a bit of an argument with them. 
And she said: "what nationality are you?" And I said: "LEBANESE." And she said: 
"where you born?" I said: "in New Zealand."  She said: "you're a New Zealander." 
I said: "yes, but I'm a full-blooded Lebanese." "No  you're not", she said: 
"you're a New Zealander." So I let it go at that. But she asked  what 
nationality I was and I told her, which was quite right. I was Lebanese. But no,  
she said, you're a New Zealander. So I didn't argue with her. In case she didn't 
give us  the boy.But, oh no, it's a good thing. I mean . . . it's good to talk 
back to the old  times. Like when Millie and I get together we --- we bring back 
the old times. You  know, she does, Millie loves it . . . hey Margaret? When we 
go out there she loves talking  about the old times.   1044
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SB: RIGHT. IS THAT YOUR ... ON THE LEBANESE SIDE? 
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SB: RIGHT, RIGHT. SO YOUR MOTHER WAS LEBANESE AS WELL, OR ENGLISH? 
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OB: LEBANESE. 
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SB: LEBANESE. AND YOUR FATHER? 
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OB: Was LEBANESE. 
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SB: AND THAT'S THE FACOORY? HE WAS LEBANESE. SO THEY CAME OUT  SEPARATELY?
107 *SB: WHAT'S THAT, 'AMUNI'? IS THAT ANOTHER LEBANESE FAMILY? 
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SB: YEAH, YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF INTERMARRIAGE AMONG  THE LEBANESE 
FAMILIES WHEN THEY ARRIVED IN DUNEDIN. 
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SB: THEY ALL LIVED IN SOUTH DUNEDIN. THEY DIDN'T ... THEY WEREN'T IN  ANY WAY 
CONNECTED TO THE LEBANESE IN THE INNER CITY AREA? 
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OB: Most of them. There's not really many LEBANESE. 
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ZR: Not many LEBANESE Orthodox left now really. There's only my  sister and 
I.379
OB: Well when they came, first came here, the older people, they went  up to 
Carroll Street. Well they knew all the LEBANESE up that way.  589
SB: Right. But she was actually LEBANESE? 
761
SB: RIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN BELIEVED THAT LEBANESE CAME TO DUNEDIN IN  THE 
1890S. IN THE 1890S. 
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*SB: SO WHAT SORT OF SOCIAL ACTIVITIES, WHAT WERE THE REGULAR SOCIAL  ACTIVITIES 
AMONG THE LEBANESE FAMILIES? WAS IT ... HOUSE TO HOUSE YOU WERE TALKING  ABOUT? 
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OB: LEBANESE or English or anything. They used to go all down. We'd  put the pot 
on.         941
*SB: SO THERE'S NOT ALL THAT MANY LEBANESE PEOPLE IN SOUTH DUNEDIN  ANY MORE, IS 
THERE - TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? 
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OB: They're not full LEBANESE. 
993
SB: MMM. SO THE OTHER AREAS AROUND DUNEDIN, THEY WERE DONE BY OTHER  LEBANESE 
FAMILIES?     1461
OB: And she married a LEBANESE. 
1869
SB: RIGHT, RIGHT. FROM WHAT YOU KNOW OF THE OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES  IN THE 
SOUTHERN DUNEDIN AREA, WERE THEY ALL IN THE COMMERCIAL TRAVELLING HAWKING  
BUSINESS AS WELL?         1921
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ZR:  No the LEBANESE people are very clean. 
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OB:  There was quite a few LEBANESE men went down south way you see.  But I 
don't know why.  There wasn't so many of ... I think it was only my grandfather  
and my father that went up that way.  Oh and my great grandmother.  She did the  
travelling.                   
1725 SB:  SO WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD AT HOME IN THE 1920S, WAS LEBANESE  SPOKEN IN 
THE HOUSEHOLD?  2375
SB:  IN THE HOUSE?  RIGHT.  SO YOU GREW UP SPEAKING LEBANESE IN THE  HOUSE? 
2379 OB:  There was no LEBANESE for them here to ...  2441
OB:  Well she married ... well then it went from ... that was half.  And then 
it's gone. Then the next lot, they married ... nobody married LEBANESE any more.  
We're right down now to. 
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*SB:  YEAH.  WHAT OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES LIVED NEAR YOU IN SOUTH  DUNEDIN? 
2735
OB:  There was our family and one round the corner.  Granny round the  corner.  
And my grandfather's sister, she lived in the same street as us.  There was  
another LEBANESE family lived opposite my Grandmother.  And then there was. 
2737
SB:  HOWLEY.  DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LEBANESE NAME.  IS THAT, MARRIED  INTO IT?
2751
SB:  BUT THEY WERE A LEBANESE FAMILY? 
2755
SB:  OK, RIGHT.  UM SO DID ANY OF THESE OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES, SAY,  AMUNIS, 
BUNDOS, BARBARAS, IDOURS, OR HOWLEYS, WERE ANY OF THEM INVOLVED AS COMMERCIAL  
TRAVELLERS TOO?      2873
SB:  YEAH, YEAH.  RIGHT.  SO YOU DON'T REMEMBER THERE BEING A LOT OF  HAWKERS 
AMONG THE LEBANESE IN SOUTH DUNEDIN, DO YOU?  YOU CAN'T REMEMBER? 
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*SB:  SO IT SOUNDS LIKE BY THE TIME YOU WERE BORN, IN YOUR EARLY  CHILDHOOD, IT 
SOUNDS LIKE THAT THE LEBANESE COMMUNITY WAS STARTING TO DISPERSE, SPREAD  OUT.  
WOULD THAT BE TRUE?                            
2917
SB:  BUT THERE WAS DEFINITELY ... WAS THERE DEFINITELY A CLOSER  LEBANESE 
COMMUNITY IN THE EARLIER DAYS? 
2921
SB:  OK.  SO DO YOU REMEMBER ... DID YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU MUCH ABOUT  THE 
EARLIER LEBANESE FAMILY? 
2929
SB:  YEAH.  SO DID YOU YOURSELF FEEL THAT YOU WERE SORT OF LESS PART  OF A 
LEBANESE COMMUNITY THAN JUST A KIWI GIRL, OR WHAT? 
2949
OB:  And I think I put down LEBANESE there and I should have put down  New 
Zealand.         2959
SB:  RIGHT, RIGHT.  SO IN TERMS OF THE LEBANESE CULTURE, WHAT ASPECTS  OF 
LEBANESE CULTURE WERE REALLY PROMINENT WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG, REALLY?  I MEAN 
YOU'VE MENTIONED COOKING. 
2977
SB:  YEAH.  WHAT OTHER ASPECTS OF LEBANESE CULTURE DO YOU REMEMBER  BEING VERY 
STRONG WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG? 
2987
OB:  Oh broken.  I think it would be broken because they would all  talk in 
LEBANESE.       3175 ZR:  And the Presbyterians and the LEBANESE.  It was very 
good.  It's  all in the Early Settlers. 
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OB: In between that we got a priest from overseas who come. A  LEBANESE. They 
opened it. He could have been there just for a day or two days, whatever it is,  
and then they went away again. 
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OB: There was Greek Orthodox and ... LEBANESE. 
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OB: LEBANESE. 
158
SB: SO WERE THEY LEBANESE FAMILIES MAINLY? 
160
OB: LEBANESE and Greek families. 
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SB: RIGHT. DID ANY NON-LEBANESE OR NON-GREEK PEOPLE OR FAMILIES GO TO  ST 
MICHAEL'S?         212
SB: RIGHT. AND WAS THE SERVICE ... WOULD THE PRIEST ... WAS IT IN  LATIN OR 
LEBANESE OR
...? 
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OB: The old ones were in the LEBANESE. 
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ZR: LEBANESE. 
602
OB: But now see none of them can talk LEBANESE now. 
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OB: Mmm. Then he was ordained from the LEBANESE ... the Bishop from  
Australia726 SB: SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ST MICHAEL'S WAS QUITE CENTRAL TO THE 
LEBANESE COMMUNITY?         736
SB: OK. SO SHE WOULD JUST VISIT ALL THE LEBANESE FAMILIES? 
906
OB: No did other LEBANESE ... no. 
1060
SB: MMM. I'M WONDERING IF THE LEBANESE FAMILIES INVOLVED AT ST  MICHAEL'S, 
WHETHER THEY ALIGNED THEMSELVES WITH ANY SOCIAL CAUSES. I'M THINKING OF THINGS  
LIKE SAY TEMPERANCE OR MAYBE THE LABOUR PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
1264
SB: RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THE LEBANESE FAMILIES GETTING  INVOLVED 
IN ANY
...? 
1274
SB: DID OTHER LEBANESE CHILDREN GO TO SUNDAY SCHOOLS? 
1306
OB: Mmm. Oh yes, it has given us a good background. And we got it  from the 
really old-fashioned LEBANESE way. That was their way. They mightn't have  had 
it but we had it you see. 
1518
OB: My grandfather would sing in LEBANESE at the church. We used to  love 
hearing all that.                                                
1526 SB: YEAH. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU IS DID YOU HAVE ANY, OR  ANYONE 
AMONG THE LEBANESE FAMILIES, HAVE ANY WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL SORT OF SUPERSTITIONS  
OR BELIEFS YOU KNOW, ABOUT CHARMS AND THINGS AND SPIRITS? THINGS LIKE THAT? YOU 
KNOW  HOW PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF VARIOUS SUPERSTITIONS AND PRACTISES THAT THEY DO, 
THAT THEY  THINK... DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 
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SB: MMM. WAS THERE MUCH INTERACTION BETWEEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC  LEBANESE LIVING 
IN TOWN AND ROUND WALKER STREET AND THE SOUTH DUNEDIN LEBANESE FAMILIES? 
1636
SB: SO WOULD YOU SAY THERE WAS ANY SORT OF SENSE OF RIVALRY OR  ANIMOSITY 
BETWEEN THE WALKER STREET ROMAN CATHOLIC LEBANESE AND ...? 
1696
OB: Mum was brought up most of that way. Her girlfriends were the  LEBANESE up 
there you
see. 
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OB: We still go ... we've got a wee LEBANESE group and they're mostly  the 
Lebanese from Walker Street because there's not many of us. We have every three 
or  four weeks we all have Sunday together. Women and all, we all talk. 
1710
OB: But now some of them are half LEBANESE and quarter Lebanese. 
1722
SB: MMM. SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THE LEBANESE PERCEIVED  THAT THERE 
WAS AN ECONOMIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAMILIES IN SOUTH DUNEDIN AND IN  WALKER 
STREET. WAS THERE A PERCEPTION THAT THE WALKER STREET LEBANESE WERE A WEALTHIER 
GROUP?                 1738
OB: But then we're business and ... but the Orthodox LEBANESE from  out south, 
well most of them went away. The families got smaller you see. 
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SB: WHAT ABOUT ANY OF THE LEBANESE OR SYRIAN FAMILIES THAT WERE OUT  THIS WAY? 
THE BUNDOS, THE IDOURS OR THE BARBARAS OR THE FACOORYS? 
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AC: They were all passed away. There was really no one - there's only  Jack in 
my generation now, that's all there is. Not like Olga and Zita, when  they go 
there's nobody. We are the end of the generation that are LEBANESE. The  others 
are all half Lebanese or half English or whatever. 
29
AC: They'd heard of other LEBANESE people coming and I thought they  thought 
'well, we'll go too'. That's all we know. 
61
He's well-known out South Dunedin - Gus Campbell - he was a South-end  carrier. 
In our day, everybody knew Gus Campbell, he was a South-end Carrier.  Everybody 
got Gus Campbell to shift them, and they all forgot to pay him though, didn't 
they?  And I used to say to him: "why don't you send an account?" And he said: 
"they knew where  to come for me, they know where to come and pay me". And 
that's how he looked at it. When  he passed away he was well-known out South 
Dunedin. And they were all there at his  service and I looked and I thought: 
"yes, you all owe us money". That's what I thought,  really. Not a nice thing to 
say, but that's right. And that was that. He wasn't  LEBANESE, Gus Campbell. No,
no. 
147
SB: YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU - WAS THAT AN ISSUE FOR SOME OF THE  OLDER --- 
YOUR PARENTS - THAT YOU DIDN'T MARRY A LEBANESE? 
149
AC: No. Olga married a LEBANESE - she married Barbara - Jackie  Barbara's 
brother. No. No. We lived next door to one another. We grew up together.  155
AC: You'll be surprised. An Englishman is still here - it's not a  LEBANESE 
minister. There was an English minister when we were young, but if anyone came  
from Australia and they were Lebanese, they did the service in Lebanese for us. 
I  understand - I can speak Lebanese and I understand, these other generations, 
a little after  me, they don't speak Lebanese very much. But I speak it 
fluently. But there's no one here  now to talk Lebanese with. 
195
AC: I have a friend here and her and I have a wee talk in LEBANESE  over the 
phone.          199
SB: WAS HE A LEBANESE? 
213
SB: DO YOU REMEMBER THE LEBANESE PRIEST DO YOU REMEMBER . . .? 
221
AC: If they came on holiday and they did a service. Yes. I understand  LEBANESE. 
I understand it as I do English. I speak Lebanese. Not as much as we  should 
because there's no one now to talk Lebanese. I've got a sister who doesn't  half 
understand Lebanese. 
223
SB: WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE FIRST LEBANESE PRIEST? 
225
AC: Oh I wouldn't know. I would never know. We'd only know when he  came from 
Australia or Lebanon, there was a service on and we went. When I was going they  
were English - it was from the Holy Cross in St Kilda, he was, you know, not 
LEBANESE  at all. We went to church, he just did an English service. But my 
daughter and I used to  go, there was no Lebanese at all. No Lebanese speaking - 
English. 
227
AC: Yes. Lovely, the LEBANESE, just like they do in English, but in  Lebanese. 
The Holy Communion. Just the same. Only done in Lebanese. They had a group man  
there, you want to go down, you pay your --- you'd get all you want to know if 
you just  go to a service, it starts at 10 o'clock on a Sunday morning. They 
have a lot of Greeks  and a lot of --- Olga knows, Olga goes every Sunday 
morning. Her and Zita go. I don't  say they go every Sunday morning, but they go 
regular. 
235
AC: Well I haven't been to a Dunedin service for a long time. I  haven't been 
for a long time - 18 years. I wouldn't know now - it's just an English service.  
They give you Holy Communion like the LEBANESE people do and that's all I know. 
Olga's  the one, they go regular. 
239
SB: THE --- WAS IT JUST LEBANESE FAMILIES THAT WENT TO ST MICHAEL'S  IN THE 
EARLY DAYS?      241
AC: No. If any of the English people that lived around there, they  used to come 
into the service. People over the road used to come in and they weren't  
LEBANESE. It was spoken in English unless it was a real Lebanese minister. And I 
don't  remember --- only if he was a Lebanese that he spoke Lebanese, but they 
were all, when we  grew up they were really only English. 
243
AC: And I think the Catholics wouldn't marry us. Just the same. We  had a lot of 
friends - LEBANESE Catholics. Very friendly, good friends. Lovely friends  
really. Lovely friends.   
275 AC: Ooh yeah they were staunch Catholics. Yes. They still are. Their  
children are. Not many of them left in Dunedin I don't think. And they've 
married into  English, you know, Anglais, and different life altogether. I 
married an English, but it  didn't worry my husband, he knew I was LEBANESE. We 
grew up together. We were  children together. Next door to one another. Their 
mother died and left seven children.  283
AC: Not the Campbell family, no. But if anything special was on and I  wanted 
Gus to go, he would go, but otherwise he didn't bother. But the minister used to  
come and talk to us. But he wasn't LEBANESE. 
295
SB: HMM. WHAT SORT OF SOCIAL ACTIVITIES WOULD ALL THE LEBANESE  FAMILIES GET UP 
TO IN THE OLD DAYS? 
305
SB: UH-HMM. JACK WAS TELLING ME ABOUT LEBANESE PICNICS AND BALLS AND  THINGS 
LIKE THAT.      313 
SB: OKAY. HMM. AND JACK WAS SAYING THAT IN HIS FAMILY HIS MOTHER USED  TO DO ALL 
THE LEBANESE COOKING, JUST EVERYTHING. 
347
SB: SO YOUR MOTHER, WOULD SHE DO ALL THE LEBANESE COOKING AS WELL? 
359
AC: Oh yes. Yes. We do LEBANESE cooking here. When I'm in the mood. 
361
SB: DO YOU REMEMBER THE --- JACK WAS SAYING, THERE'D BE LEBANESE  PICNICS WHERE 
THEY'D HAVE BIG SPORTS DAYS WITH THE . . .? 
367
AC: Yes. Three or four families, they all had big families. LEBANESE  people had 
big families. And three or four families - well the Barbara's there was  12 of 
them - 14 of them altogether. There was Gus and I and Nancy, I had one daughter,  
three of us and somebody else had four. Oh, he took them all down in his van. 
Yes he  was a good man Gus Campbell. He's well-known out South Dunedin - he 
won't be known now, different generation, unless you're talking to somebody 
that's 80 or 90. 
369
AC: Yes. He had a factory. Sewing factory. He was LEBANESE, his wife  wasn't. 
Had a daughter, Thelma, she passed away, long time ago. Yes. George Adess. 
377
AC: He was LEBANESE. His wife was English. 
405
SB: DO YOU THINK THAT BACK THEN THAT THERE WAS A SORT OF AN ATTITUDE  AGAINST 
THE LEBANESE PEOPLE BY OTHERS? 
427
AC: Nothing. We were brought up talking LEBANESE. My sister doesn't  remember it 
from another, she gets it's all muddled up and all, but I am the only one  in 
our family now who is alive that speaks Lebanese, the others are more English. 
I've  got a sister who doesn't know a quarter of Lebanese, she mixes it all 
around - you get  to know what it means. 
469
AC: English. I was born here, I was English. I was speaking English.  We learnt 
English with LEBANESE. We had to talk English so our mother could learn  
English. My father was well-educated. Idours were well-educated. But my mother, 
she learned  English from us. As the children grew up and went to school, she 
had to learn from them.  We never spoke Lebanese very much at all. We did, the 
older ones, not the younger  ones.                    477
SB: YEAH. UH-HMM. HOW IMPORTANT WAS RELIGION TO THE WHOLE LEBANESE 
COMMUNITY?               503
AC: Very religious. Oh yes. Yes. Very, very religious. Oh yes. Very  religious. 
And there's time, we never had our lunch until we said prayer. Very  religious. 
Ollah always talked about, Ollah - God. We were brought up that way. As time got  
more modern and the other children came up, well they grew up with the English - 
Anglais  - we called them, English. Tony, my brother and I we were brought up 
with all LEBANESE  people, but as we grew up and the others came along, well 
they would talk to my mother  in English, that's how my mother learnt to speak 
English, from the children.  
505
AC: Yes. Why did you put so many wild flowers, mum said. That's Gus  Campbell 
when he was a boy. I might have photos of mum - I don't know whether this is the  
book or not. That's my mother at 17. She was married at 18. This is the book I 
want to  show you. There's the LEBANESE church. Now there's Les Mrs OBlga's 
husband. John Aya, a  Lebanese, my brother's there. There's a brother of mine. 
I'll tell you who they  are. There's Olga's grandmother standing there with a 
hat on, can you see? 
519
AC: That's my aunty and that's my brother. That's Lotti Amuni, a  LEBANESE lady. 
She lived in Wesley Street out South Dunedin.    543 AC: Lotti Amuni. The 
Amunis. Her and her brother and her father. She  came out when she was about . . 
. oh I don't know. I'd be about 15 when she came out  from Lebanon. She couldn't 
speak English or anything. Amuni. . . .   There's the  LEBANESE Ball. All the 
Lebanese people in all Lebanese and all their wives and husbands, all  there.
547
AC: She was Julia Howley. Well that's her there. And they're all  LEBANESE 
people that are here. I'm not here. I was in hospital at the time. And they're  
all Lebanese family with their wives and family at a reunion.  555
AC: That's me. That's my mother when she was young. . . . There's my  brother 
Tony - Tony Idour. There's my sister Emily, she's passed away. There's my  
daughter, Nancy. Tony, me. Sissie my sister - my sister just passed away a 
couple of months ago,  this one. This one here is a grandmother, this girl here 
now, she's a grandmother.  LEBANESE people. There's Jackie's sister, Mary - Mary 
Idour, Lebanese. All Lebanese there.  There's my husband and his niece - she 
came here the last time you were here. Remember the  girl that came here?    563
AC: He gave her away, that's her. And there's Gus, Nancy and me. I'll  just see 
if I've got some old photos I can show you, I don't know. This is my house in  
Dunedin.  . . . There's my two sisters, they're in their '70s now. That's my  
grandson, you don't know anybody there. Let me see if I've got any LEBANESE 
people here. You  might see Victor here.  . . . There's Mary - Jackie's sister. 
That's my son-in-law. .  . . There's our family group. There's my mother, my 
father had died. There's my  mother. There's me. My brother, Tony, my brother 
Carl, my brother, Victor. My sister who  lives just down the road here - 
Nealhurst Road. This sister passed away, and this sister  passed away just a 
couple of months ago. This is the one that had the Military Medal,  Victor - 
Victor Idour. This is Tony he worked at Shacklock's. My father had just  died. 
This is a character of a sister. She's 86 now. So you know how old that photo 
is.                     567
AC: All English, no LEBANESE. Oh no, no Lebanese. I won a lot of  prizes for 
catechism, I don't know where, I can't put my hand on them now, but I won a lot 
of  prizes for catechism. When I was young. That's the church we went to.  579 
AC: We didn't have a LEBANESE minister at our church. There was no  church open. 
No minister. No church. They went there. That's because there was no  minister 
at our church. No minister there to do our services. 
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SB: RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE MUCH INTERACTION WITH ANY CHINESE OR LEBANESE  PEOPLE IN 
THIS AREA? 
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SB: AND DID YOU COME ACROSS ANY OF THE LEBANESE AND SYRIAN FAMILIES  THAT LIVED 
OUT THIS
WAY? 
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+++ Searching document int.Delargey, Edward J....
SB: RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THE LEBANESE OR THE SYRIAN  FAMILIES?               
668
ED: Ooh yeah. Oh yeah. Used to smell garlic - they used to eat a lot  of garlic. 
And strong. You know. And you could smell them. Smell their breath you  know, if 
you were sitting beside one. Oh yes, they were --- and another thing, they all  
had money. They made money those devils you know. And they were always well-
dressed. Always well-dressed, you know. The LEBANESE. A lot of them. 
694
SB: YEAH. DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THE SYRIAN AND LEBANESE FAMILIES  THAT LIVED 
OUT THIS WAY? I'M THINKING OF MAYBE THE IDOURS. . . 
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+++ Searching document int.Mr KD F L...
SB: HMM. INTERESTING ISN'T IT. WHAT ABOUT --- I KNOW THERE WERE QUITE  A FEW 
LEBANESE AND SYRIANS LIVING IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 
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+++ Searching document int.Fountain, Kathleen Vere...
       *SB:MMM. MMM. DID YOU COME ACROSS OR INTERACT MUCH WITH THE  LEBANESE AND 
SYRIAN FAMILIES IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 
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       SB: WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THE EARLY LEBANESE FAMILIES AND  CHILDREN?              
906
       KF: Just that they'd come from wherever they came from, Syria I  suppose 
it was, was it? They were LEBANESE though, some of them, I think.  908        
KF: And the Quakers, but I certainly don't remember any Mormons  or any of the 
Brethren or anyone like that, but I think those LEBANESE belonged to  one of 
those religions, didn't they? 
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CI:Yes. What we called Syrians. We now know they were LEBANESE. 
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CI:No idea. Probably the reason they came out to New Zealand was that  the 
LEBANESE who came here are all Christians belonging to the orthodox church. 
Greek  Orthodox. And they still have their own chapel in South Dunedin. 
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+++ Searching document int.Mrs HJ...
SB: DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THE SYRIAN OR LEBANESE WHO LIVED IN THIS  AREA? 
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+++ Searching document int.Kennedy, James Ronayne...
SB: HMM.  . . . DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THE LEBANESE AND THE SYRIAN  FAMILIES IN 
THIS AREA?   484
RK: Oh yes. Uh, now there's a lot of --- they still, I think, live up  in 
Carroll Street, round that region. Uhm. LEBANESE - a lot of Lebanese at school 
when I  went there, in fact a neighbour of mine across the road here is 
Lebanese.  486
SB: SO A LOT OF LEBANESE CHILDREN WENT TO ST PHIL'S? 
488
SB: SO WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG DID YOU HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE  LEBANESE 
PEOPLE AT ALL - LEBANESE KIDS? 
500
SB: DID YOU PLAY WITH LEBANESE CHILDREN? 
508
SB: DO YOU REMEMBER EVER ANY LEBANESE FAMILIES ACTUALLY LIVING HERE  IN SOUTH 
DUNEDIN
AREA? 
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+++ Searching document int.Marlow, Kevin...
SB: Hmm. Now I also know there were some LEBANESE, Syrian families  that lived 
out this way too. 
223
KM: And we called them some terrible names at times. I don't know  why. I've 
never worked out why. It was just something you accepted. The first time you met  
them - 'oh they're so-and-so's'. But I found out subsequently, some of our 
greatest  friends are LEBANESE. My daughter - oldest daughter, was married in 
the States, now she's  53 or something - she was born in 1947 - she'll be 54 - 
54 she is now, that's right.  Well, Angela's closest friend was a Lebanese girl 
here in Dunedin. And they still  correspond. In fact the Lebanese girl has just 
come back from a holiday over there,  staying with her. And she's married here 
with her children - her family. But no - the  Lebanese in those days - in a most 
un-Christian way we looked down on them, I don't know why. 
233
SB: RIGHT. WHAT --- WHAT STOOD OUT ABOUT THE LEBANESE BACK THEN, DO  YOU THINK? 
HOW WOULD OTHER PEOPLE VIEW THEM? 
239
SB: RIGHT. HMM. OKAY. UHM, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION I WAS WONDERING.  I'VE TALKED 
--- I
ASKED YOU BEFORE ABOUT THE CHINESE AND THE LEBANESE, DO YOU REMEMBER  THERE 
BEING ANY OTHER, I GUESS, DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUP, OUT THIS WAY? OR ANYONE OF  
SAY, A BLACK FACE, YOU KNOW, MAORI - I KNOW THERE WAS A WEST INDIAN MAN AROUND 
HERE AT  ONE STAGE, BACK THEN. DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OTHER . . .? 
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SB: WAS IT SIMILAR WITH THE LEBANESE, THE SYRIANS? 
649
SB: DID YOU HAVE CHINESE OR LEBANESE OR SYRIAN FRIENDS WHEN YOU WERE  YOUNG? DID 
YOU PLAY WITH THEM OR GO TO SCHOOL WITH THEM? HAVE THEM AS FRIENDS? 
653
LM: To be quite candid, I wouldn't have known --- I must have been  awfully 
ignorant I wouldn't have known whether they were LEBANESE or Arabic or what they  
were. They were just - OK I went to school with them. Chinese, I will admit I 
could  see the difference there. 
655
LM: But as far as the LEBANESE were concerned they just had a nice  healthy tan 
most of the year, so I wouldn't have taken any notice of them. 
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KM: Yeah. The Barbaras were down --- I don't think they were LEBANESE  anyway. 
No, the Lebanese went to Forbury School and they were the only ones. We never  
had any Chinese at Forbury School. And I think we only had one Maori and one 
Maori  teacher. But there was no --- no, it was a big school, 700 went to 
Forbury. 
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KM: . . . Yeah. Any weddings for the LEBANESE, all the women from the  Flat used 
to go there, because it was always an event to be seen. Because the lace  come 
out and there was beautiful weddings. Even that little church. 
577
SB: OKAY. DID I ASK YOU LAST TIME ABOUT THE LEBANESE AND THE SYRIAN  FAMILIES 
THAT LIVED OUT THIS WAY? 
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+++ Searching document int.Mrs LMM '01...
SB: HMM. DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THE LEBANESE AND SYRIAN  FAMILIES THAT 
LIVED OUT THAT WAY?  
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SB: DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THE LEBANESE OR SYRIAN FAMILIES  OUT THAT 
WAY?            225
JM: I think the LEBANESE the only feelings we had for them - they  used to come 
round the door and sell materials. 
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	TB:	AND THAT'S WHERE THE LEBANESE LIVED TOO, DIDN'T THEY? 
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	TB:	Oh yes. And so were a lot of the LEBANESE. 
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SB: AND ALSO HOW DID YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS VIEW THE LEBANESE AND THE  SYRIAN 
PEOPLE WHO HAD SETTLED IN THE SOUTH DUNEDIN AREA AND ST KILDA AREA? 
124
TR: I don't know. But as kids do, they sort of pass things round  about Jews and 
other Syrians, people. But there were some people of --- we called them  
Syrians, I'm not quite sure, I couldn't identify them now, a family of Wards, 
they were  called. And they were of that kind of extraction. Didn't make any 
difference to us. We had  a Maori boy or two in our school as well. We rather 
respected them very much. But that  tended to be - tended to be unnecessary 
bigotry towards those particular coloured  people. And I think it was there even 
then, because by now its rampant isn't it. My son  lived in the Sydney, lives in 
the Blue Mountains now, but he was surrounded by LEBANESE in  the street that he 
was in, and he was glad to go. Because they were simply buying every  property 
so they could establish themselves, a community over there. 
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I:WHAT ABOUT THE LEBANESE? 
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GS:He didn't run a business with them. LEBANESE .... the last 40  years have 
they ....       876
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AB:WHAT ABOUT OTHER RACIAL GROUPS LIKE LEBANESE OR ..? 
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Miss S:I had a lot of friends amongst the LEBANESE at different  times. As I 
said we were brought up differently. You see C.A. Shiel crowd would have looked  
down on them. They were ... but we were never allowed to. Mum was very fussy. 
She was a  school teacher you see. 
988
AB:DID YOU NOTICE THAT THEY TENDED TO LIVE IN THE SAME AREAS PERHAPS,  THE 
CHINESE AND THEN THE LEBANESE ..? 
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       And I remember one little boy, beautiful big brown eyes, I  think he was 
LEBANESE, and another one, you see whatever age they were, the schools which  
sent, in say three bus loads in, all they'd fit in Macandrew Road, intermediate 
schools  used to take us two days to put them through, and he said that this 
little boy is looking  at the other and he said, 'What she talking about?  What 
she saying?' - something like  that - and he said, 'Cowshit'.  I said, 'You're 
quite right, that's what it is but  we don't say it like that', you see.  But I 
said that is what it is (MC: mmm).  You  see, I never tried to hide things, but 
ah so that's where I got all my talking and that.  I used to swot it up you see. 
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SB:  RIGHT, OK.  ALREADY SOME LEBANESE. 
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MT:  And Dad made matters worse by marrying Mum who was not a  LEBANESE or a 
Syrian or whatever they're called, with the result - Mum was in the same  
position.  She was in trouble because she married out of her ...  And we got the 
half and  half.                   300
SB:  RIGHT.  AND BECAUSE SHE MARRIED A LEBANESE. 
310
SB:  WERE THE HOWLEYS LEBANESE OR JUST? 
562
SB:  DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR FAMILY WAS FAIRLY TYPICAL OF THE OTHER  LEBANESE 
FAMILIES IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 
736
SB:  DO YOU THINK THAT THE LEBANESE WERE REGARDED AS ... WERE 'ON THE  OUTER', 
OR REGARDED IN A PARTICULAR WAY? 
930
MT:  No.  I think they were regar ... well there again, you have your  division 
of that LEBANESE group. 
932
SB:  MMM.  NO THAT'S OK.  THAT'S ONLY ONE ASPECT THAT WE'RE  INTERESTED IN.  OK.  
WHAT ABOUT OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES IN THE SOUTH DUNEDIN AREA?  DO YOU  REMEMBER 
ANY OF THEM BEING HAWKERS? 
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SB:  OK.  SO YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANY LEBANESE TRAVELLERS OR HAWKERS  AROUND IN 
THE NEIGHBOURHOOD? 
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SB:  RIGHT.  JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE GENERAL CULTURE.  WAS THERE ANY  SORT OF 
WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A 'LEBANESE CULTURE' OR SOME PARTICULAR CULTURE PECULIAR  TO 
THE LEBANESE FAMILIES IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 
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MT:  Meeting other members of the family, of the LEBANESE group. 
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SB:  OF THE LEBANESE GROUP. 
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SB:  IN THE LEBANESE COMMUNITY. 
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SB:  I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT, IN TERMS OF DAILY RELIGIOUS PRACTICES.  DO YOU 
REMEMBER ANY LEBANESE FAMILIES HAVING PARTICULAR RELIGIOUS PRACTICES ON A DAY  
TO DAY BASIS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ORTHODOX? 
1540
SB:  RIGHT.  DID OTHER LEBANESE CHILDREN GO TO YOUR SUNDAY SCHOOL? 
1760
SB:  TO START WITH.  SO WAS IT NORMAL FOR THE LEBANESE CHILDREN TO GO  TO SUNDAY 
SCHOOLS OR? 
1768
SB:  OK.  WHEN YOU SAY CATHOLIC GROUP YOU MEAN THE CATHOLIC LEBANESE  OR 
CATHOLICS GENERALLY? 
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SB:  OK.  WHY DID ... WAS IT BECAUSE HE WAS LEBANESE AND HE? 
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SB:  DID A LOT OF OTHER LEBANESE PEOPLE GO THERE? 
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