Q.S.R. NUD*IST Power version, revision 4.0. Licensee: Caversham Project. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++ Text search for 'Lebanese' +++ Searching document int.Barbara, Jack... JB: Well South Dunedin is 'the flat'. What they call 'the flat'. Well, the LEBANESE were all on the flat. 17 JB: And with the hills - the LEBANESE there were Roman Catholics, even though they mixed together a lot. They'd come out to our place, we'd go to their place. But it was the church. We had our church and they had their church. In those days you couldn't go --- they couldn't come to our church and we couldn't go to their church. 21 JB: Uh . . . there was the odd --- there was the letters now and then. But uh . . . after a while there was nothing, you know. But mum and dad - they used to get up at, what was it? Three o'clock in the morning, and they'd put shortwave on and they had a Philips radio and they used to get the LEBANESE talking and that from Lebanon. 92 JB: Hmm. Three o'clock in the morning. Every morning they'd get up and listen to it. Yeah. Yeah. But mum, she could write it, she could read it, where dad couldn't. He couldn't read English or anything. He could talk, you know, LEBANESE, and he talked English. And you couldn't put nothing --- if you --- like with him being in the shop, you know --- but no, you couldn't fool him with money. Yeah. 96 SB: AND SHE COULD WRITE THE LEBANESE AND ENGLISH? 122 JB: Yeah. Yeah.I don't know how true it is - there used to be a boxer - he used to be one of the best boxers in the world - Pete Saran, who was LEBANESE. But someone said he was dad's cousin, but that's as far as it went. Nobody was sure. 136 JB: Put rice and meat and other stuff - that's a LEBANESE meal. Yeah. And they were lovely the grape leaves. You'd never believe it. Oh, we have them here. 264 SB: So it sounds like the LEBANESE cooking was . . . 274 JB: It was all LEBANESE cooking for us. 276 JB: And charge --- they used to charge, for one little piece, damn near enough to $3! Mum used to do it for the --- mum used to do it for the LEBANESE on the flat. 312 JB: Oh yeah, for her sister. Corban Wines. Corban Wines was my uncle and aunty. She married A A Corban - he was the wine fellow. He married my mother's sister. Yeah. Aunty Julie. Yeh. But mum --- it was all done around mum - you know, the work was there and mum would do it.And the same as I say, on New Year's Eve was 'first footy' - what they called the 'first footy', the LEBANESE in those days. They'd go from place-to-place and the table was set, everywhere you went. It was all Lebanese stuff. 320 JB: You'd go round all the LEBANESE on the flat just about. 328 SB: WHERE DID YOUR MOTHER GET ALL THE OTHER LEBANESE INGREDIENTS FROM? 338 JB: Hmm. They used to love coming around there. And they'd play --- they'd have this LEBANESE game like Draughts and what-not. And then they'd play something else and then they'd play Mazeravere and uhm, that could go for three or four hours playing Mazeravere - maybe two schools, maybe three schools. And then after that they'd have their dinner and they'd keep on playing till 12 o'clock and then they'd turn around and tell Lebanese stories. 376 JB: Which I wish we would have been allowed to stay up to listen to, but we weren't allowed, you see. Mum wouldn't let us stay up that late. But it was a pity. A lot of it was done in the LEBANESE language. 380 SB: YEAH. SO THESE SOCIAL ACTIVITIES - YOU'D BE MIXING A LOT WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC LEBANESE UP WALKER STREET WAY? 398 JB: Oh the LEBANESE Ball. 404 JB: But we used to have what they called the LEBANESE picnic. 420 SB: SO THESE LEBANESE PICNICS - WHEREABOUTS WOULD YOU GO FOR THEM? 428 SB: THE OLD PEOPLE WHO WOULD ALL BE TALKING IN LEBANESE AND THINGS? 460 JB: Oh, no way. I mean, Carroll Street - it might be, like, some of the Pakehas, but not the LEBANESE. I mean, you couldn't --- well, I never heard one of them for the time I was going up there, argue. And that's honest. And I mean they lived mostly in Carroll Street. There were some in Stafford Street and round and about, but they might have arguments, I wouldn't know, but everybody has arguments, no matter what nationality is, you know. But as far as I can remember, I uh, I enjoyed going up there. I used to go up there on a Sunday night and mix with them, and it was only when I joined Zingari-Richmond that I sort of got friends from the Club and we'd go out. Instead of going up to Carroll Street on a Saturday night or a Sunday night, we'd go out to our own dos, you know. Go out to a dance or anything like that. 466 SB: RIGHT. WOULD THAT BE JUST YOU LEBANESE KIDS OR ALL DIFFERENT KIDS GO DOWN THERE? 504 JB: But he was a real --- you know, you'd think he was a LEBANESE the way he used to carry on. Oh yeah, he was lovely. 514 SB: SO WAS IT A BIG DEAL FOR ONE OF THE LEBANESE TO MARRY A NON-LEBANESE? 516 JB: See, you take my brothers - there was only two of them that married a LEBANESE girl - that was Walter and Nick - Nicholas. The eldest and the second oldest. 526 JB: Oh sorry, and Tony - Mary, my sister's husband, he was LEBANESE, Millie's brother. 530 SB: I GUESS WHEN YOU'VE GOT NINE BROTHERS, AND THERE WOULDN'T BE TOO MANY LEBANESE GIRLS ON THE FLAT, WAS THERE? 532 JB: It was only three of them in the family, that married LEBANESE. All the others was Pakeha, Maori. That's about it, yeah. 542 SB: I WANTED TO ASK YOU HOW IMPORTANT RELIGION WAS TO YOUR PARENTS? TO THE LEBANESE COMMUNITY BACK THEN? 560 JB: No, no, St Michaels. We used to go there and clean the church. All take turns. All the families, you know. And then me brother Les, he was the altar boy there and he was at Holy Cross, he was altar boy there.But uh, no, Canon Webb, he was well and truly liked by the LEBANESE community. You couldn't have got a better fellow than him. You know, he was just - well put it like this - he was one of us. You know. Even though he was a Pakeha, he was always one of us. He'd help you all if you had any trouble, you know, he was good. And that's how he became to be in those days, Canon Webb. You very seldom get a Canon - like, ministers now. In those days - he was a real gentleman. You know, if you were walking down the street and he passed you, he'd know you. He wouldn't snub you no matter what it was - he'd speak to ya. Because mum - mum was a great worker for the church - for his church too, plus her own. Yeah.They'd go there and Canon Webb, you know, it's hard to say of him, you know, he was a gentleman. Even though he come once a month on a Sunday, the church was packed. And then after it was all over Lottie Amuni, she would give the service in Lebanese with the older people. They really loved, you know. Yeah. 566 SB: YOU ALL STAYED BEHIND TO DO IT AGAIN IN LEBANESE? 576 JB: Oh yeah, oh yes. He was just about as bad as mum. Oh yes.He used to stand there, just as you got in the door and you'd have Uncle Jack Idour, mother's sister's husband, and mum's brother would be on this side, uncle Tony Howley, and dad would be in the centre, and they'd stand up in the service right through. And had all these things here, when everyone comes in you light a candle. They've got all these things. That lot standing there. And everyone comes along and lights a candle. Oh no, it was really good. It was an education in those days, you know, especially for a religion. We wished we had of known a lot more. Well I did anyhow - about it, you know. Because we couldn't understand a lot of what Lottie was saying, you know, in LEBANESE. But uh, no, it was lovely. Millie would tell you that. We used to have some nice services. But the best service, was as I was telling you, was me sister's. When she got married. Oh, man. It was phenomenal. The English crowd, I mean the Pakeha's, the street was just packed. You'd never believe it. 590 JB: And it wasn't that too - it was the first LEBANESE wedding in Dunedin. And it was taken by, oh - I can't remember his name - he scared us, he had a bloody big white beard, and oh man, I used to get scared of him, you know. 634 JB: You put the onion skins all around them and they go really brown and shiny and uhm, I'd have a little bag going to church - we all would - all the family - have so many eggs each - might be half a dozen, eight or nine - even more you know. And the Greeks - they used to do theirs in cochineal - red, yellow and all this and that. 'Cause we'd go there and you'd just have it like that and you hold the egg underneath there and you'd just have a little bit showing there and the Greeks come along and they try and break it, crack it. And if they don't crack and they crack theirs, you grab theirs. And that's how they used to do it. Each one would go cracking. If you broke theirs - you'd have two go's - you've got two ends of the egg - well you'd - it might be the LEBANESE that you play with - you crack that one and then they have a turn at you. And then they use their good side, and if they don't crack it, then you'd had it, you got two cracks in your egg. It was real good. You'd never believe it. It was just one of those things. And they'd have their own Easter cake - their own, what they'd bake. All this-and-that. They'd have crosses. And circles and all different . . . 694 JB: Yeah. Yeah. So, there's a LEBANESE woman here, a friend of ours, she came this year and made us the Easter cakes and then she showed Margaret what to do. So now we know. I miss me sister Mary and me sister Sadie - every Easter Mary used to send me up a tin from Dunedin. Yeah. Every Easter she sent me a tin from Dunedin. And then Sadie, she lived in Christchurch, just round the corner here, she'd do some too you see. And of course when Mary me sister died that was no more and then when Sadie died that was it - haven't done for seven years. But Mary Haas come along and I said to her 'can you come round and show Margaret what to do?' and she said, 'yeah'. So I still --- we've still carried it on ever since I've been here, even in the North Island - married to Margaret and down here, carried it on. No fish --- no meat on a Friday. 698 JB: I do that for Darryl. He loves that. With a wee bit of the olive oil. But it was just those things you picked up, you know, as time went on. But even Margaret she knows what to do. She can make the Kibbi and Mushie and the Kussi, but she can't make the sweets, you know. I don't expect her to do that, because it's a bit hard for her. We can have --- there's a LEBANESE book out - cooking books if you want to, but it doesn't --- it's not the same, even when you cook it, it's not the same what mum used to do, I don't know, different ideas I suppose. 710 SB: OKAY. JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE GENERAL LEBANESE COMMUNITY. DID A LOT OF THE FAMILIES LIVE QUITE CLOSE TOGETHER IN THE SOUTH DUNEDIN AREA? 716 SB: DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE? DID A LOT OF THE LEBANESE PEOPLE GO THERE? OR WAS IT JUST A MIXTURE OR . . .? 760 SB: DID ALL THE LEBANESE PEOPLE HELP EACH OTHER OUT DURING THAT TIME? I MEAN WAS THERE A LOT OF - LIKE, SAY, ADESS, WOULD HE HELP OUT THE FAMILY AND THINGS LIKE THAT? 876 JB: Yeah. Yeah. But uh, if dad had got something off him and we could afford it, he'd have gave it him back in any case. But George was one of the luckiest ones - I don't suppose lucky, but I don't know what he worked at - I don't know what he'd done. But to get where he was, well it was great, you know, even though he was a LEBANESE. But he was a nice fella, but he just had his ideas and . . . 882 SB: YEAH. YEAH. JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT QUESTION NOW: I'M WONDERING, BACK THEN, DID LEBANESE --- DID YOU, GROWING UP AS LEBANESE, DID YOU FEEL DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE? WAS THERE A SENSE OF DIFFERENCE? WERE YOU, SORT OF, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW - WAS THERE A BIT OF --- ANY PERCEPTIONS OF LEBANESE PEOPLE . . .? 884 JB: Yeah. We didn't say it nasty. We just said, 'oh well, we love being LEBANESE', and that's all --- well you couldn't do anything else. I mean, it was really bad. You'd be there and some of the school kids'd tease me in the yard - "G'day you Syrian B's" and all this and that. But well, after a while, when I got out of Forbury School and I went to Macandrew Road Intermediate, it was different altogether. Different environment altogether. You know, everyone treated one another as the same. And as I said - as mum said: "just say dark is beautiful". But we weren't actually dark. We were tanned and all that. You don't see much of it now, but we were really tanned and you know what-not. 890 JB: Yeah. Me second eldest brother, Walter. Yeah. He used to go there. And that's how we got to know a few of the Chinese community was through SingWah and his family and their relations. And we'd go up - Abe and I, we might be walking past and say: "hey Sing!". And he'd go: "hey, how'ya? come on!". And we'd go in there and he'd give us a banana or give us an apple, whatever was going, you know. He was great with mum and dad.Mum and dad were good - liked to make friends - you take the Massettis in the hotel - the St Kilda Hotel. They're Italians, and of course their meals - there's just about, something about ours, you know, well, some of them are. Then they used to come down every now and then, not all the time, and they'd have a meal with mum and dad - LEBANESE meal. They loved the meals. 938 JB: Yeah. They loved a LEBANESE meal. And Bill Massetti, he's godfather - this is one of the son's, - to my nephew. 942 JB: So this day, Mary and Margaret, they'd been to the LEBANESE church and they were coming back. They rung the bloody bell! They did. They rung it. And of course I go out and I open the door nice and gently, you know, see who it is. And I looked around and it was them - Margaret, me own wife, and Mary, me sister. And I said: "gosh!" And the church crowd's coming along the road further. And I said: "gee, go on, quick, get away!" They were laughing like hell. I really enjoyed that. I had a good job. It was lovely there. And that's why with the Italians, Bill was like one of the family - him and Fred they were like brothers - my brother died when he was 37, they were like brothers. Both of them were. Wayne - that's Wayne Idour - both of them were Wayne's godfather. Oh, they were a nice family. Especially his mother and father, they were a lovely family. 954 THE GENERAL LEBANESE COMMUNITY - WHAT WOULD YOU SAY --- WERE THERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT CHARACTERISED THE LEBANESE? MAYBE THEIR CHARACTER OR THEIR LIFESTYLE? WHAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY BACK THEN? 1034 JB: Oh well. Yeah. I don't know. Well they all got on well together as far as I was concerned all my life in Dunedin for 21 years, they all got on well together. You never heard any bickering, and I mean, the Roman Catholics and the Anglicans, we all got on well together. And you went to visit their places and all that - the houses. And you'd have a cup of tea or something like that. Soon as you were in they'd make cups of tea for you and very sociable no matter where you went in the LEBANESE community. No, they were . . . --- well as far as I was concerned they were just like a Pakeha. 1036 JB: There was no difference in them. I mean some of them might have been a wee bit better than the Pakeha, I don't know. The Pakeha might have been a wee bit better than us, but you never heard any arguments. Never heard any arguments. I can't remember ever having arguments uhm . . . seeing them with Pakehas and having arguments. And they used to mix with the Pakehas. They used to go --- you take the football clubs and all of that - the soccer. And the League in those days. A lot of LEBANESE played League in those days. Yeah. They were really good mixers. You couldn't say that they weren't. For their religion - that was their religion and that was our religion and there was nothing --- It was just like, you're still brothers and sisters, the whole lot of yous. See, I've got a friend in Dunedin now, Alan, and we're not even related, but we call each other brother. He's Lebanese, but we call each other brother, we've been like that for years. We knocked around for a time when I was away from Dunedin. 1040 JB: Even though you go away from Dunedin - like, I was up the North Island for 16 years. When I come back down we were still the best of friends. You know, you just . . . there was no thing about it, they just invite you up. They used to invite Margaret up there and what-not. They liked Margaret, up there, yeah. In Carroll Street. It was just one of those good things.I mean, you never forget. But you never forget your nationality, I mean, you're proud of it. As I say, when I went to adopt me boy and me girl, I had a bit of an argument with them. And she said: "what nationality are you?" And I said: "LEBANESE." And she said: "where you born?" I said: "in New Zealand." She said: "you're a New Zealander." I said: "yes, but I'm a full-blooded Lebanese." "No you're not", she said: "you're a New Zealander." So I let it go at that. But she asked what nationality I was and I told her, which was quite right. I was Lebanese. But no, she said, you're a New Zealander. So I didn't argue with her. In case she didn't give us the boy.But, oh no, it's a good thing. I mean . . . it's good to talk back to the old times. Like when Millie and I get together we --- we bring back the old times. You know, she does, Millie loves it . . . hey Margaret? When we go out there she loves talking about the old times. 1044 +++ 49 text units out of 1054, = 4.6% +++ Searching document int.Mrs OB, Mrs ZR, int 1... SB: RIGHT. IS THAT YOUR ... ON THE LEBANESE SIDE? 75 SB: RIGHT, RIGHT. SO YOUR MOTHER WAS LEBANESE AS WELL, OR ENGLISH? 99 OB: LEBANESE. 101 SB: LEBANESE. AND YOUR FATHER? 103 OB: Was LEBANESE. 105 SB: AND THAT'S THE FACOORY? HE WAS LEBANESE. SO THEY CAME OUT SEPARATELY? 107 *SB: WHAT'S THAT, 'AMUNI'? IS THAT ANOTHER LEBANESE FAMILY? 189 SB: YEAH, YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF INTERMARRIAGE AMONG THE LEBANESE FAMILIES WHEN THEY ARRIVED IN DUNEDIN. 271 SB: THEY ALL LIVED IN SOUTH DUNEDIN. THEY DIDN'T ... THEY WEREN'T IN ANY WAY CONNECTED TO THE LEBANESE IN THE INNER CITY AREA? 313 OB: Most of them. There's not really many LEBANESE. 377 ZR: Not many LEBANESE Orthodox left now really. There's only my sister and I.379 OB: Well when they came, first came here, the older people, they went up to Carroll Street. Well they knew all the LEBANESE up that way. 589 SB: Right. But she was actually LEBANESE? 761 SB: RIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN BELIEVED THAT LEBANESE CAME TO DUNEDIN IN THE 1890S. IN THE 1890S. 805 *SB: SO WHAT SORT OF SOCIAL ACTIVITIES, WHAT WERE THE REGULAR SOCIAL ACTIVITIES AMONG THE LEBANESE FAMILIES? WAS IT ... HOUSE TO HOUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? 913 OB: LEBANESE or English or anything. They used to go all down. We'd put the pot on. 941 *SB: SO THERE'S NOT ALL THAT MANY LEBANESE PEOPLE IN SOUTH DUNEDIN ANY MORE, IS THERE - TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? 979 OB: They're not full LEBANESE. 993 SB: MMM. SO THE OTHER AREAS AROUND DUNEDIN, THEY WERE DONE BY OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES? 1461 OB: And she married a LEBANESE. 1869 SB: RIGHT, RIGHT. FROM WHAT YOU KNOW OF THE OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES IN THE SOUTHERN DUNEDIN AREA, WERE THEY ALL IN THE COMMERCIAL TRAVELLING HAWKING BUSINESS AS WELL? 1921 +++ 21 text units out of 1954, = 1.1% +++ Searching document int.Mrs OB, Mrs ZR, int 2... ZR: No the LEBANESE people are very clean. 583 OB: There was quite a few LEBANESE men went down south way you see. But I don't know why. There wasn't so many of ... I think it was only my grandfather and my father that went up that way. Oh and my great grandmother. She did the travelling. 1725 SB: SO WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD AT HOME IN THE 1920S, WAS LEBANESE SPOKEN IN THE HOUSEHOLD? 2375 SB: IN THE HOUSE? RIGHT. SO YOU GREW UP SPEAKING LEBANESE IN THE HOUSE? 2379 OB: There was no LEBANESE for them here to ... 2441 OB: Well she married ... well then it went from ... that was half. And then it's gone. Then the next lot, they married ... nobody married LEBANESE any more. We're right down now to. 2453 *SB: YEAH. WHAT OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES LIVED NEAR YOU IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 2735 OB: There was our family and one round the corner. Granny round the corner. And my grandfather's sister, she lived in the same street as us. There was another LEBANESE family lived opposite my Grandmother. And then there was. 2737 SB: HOWLEY. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LEBANESE NAME. IS THAT, MARRIED INTO IT? 2751 SB: BUT THEY WERE A LEBANESE FAMILY? 2755 SB: OK, RIGHT. UM SO DID ANY OF THESE OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES, SAY, AMUNIS, BUNDOS, BARBARAS, IDOURS, OR HOWLEYS, WERE ANY OF THEM INVOLVED AS COMMERCIAL TRAVELLERS TOO? 2873 SB: YEAH, YEAH. RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T REMEMBER THERE BEING A LOT OF HAWKERS AMONG THE LEBANESE IN SOUTH DUNEDIN, DO YOU? YOU CAN'T REMEMBER? 2905 *SB: SO IT SOUNDS LIKE BY THE TIME YOU WERE BORN, IN YOUR EARLY CHILDHOOD, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THE LEBANESE COMMUNITY WAS STARTING TO DISPERSE, SPREAD OUT. WOULD THAT BE TRUE? 2917 SB: BUT THERE WAS DEFINITELY ... WAS THERE DEFINITELY A CLOSER LEBANESE COMMUNITY IN THE EARLIER DAYS? 2921 SB: OK. SO DO YOU REMEMBER ... DID YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU MUCH ABOUT THE EARLIER LEBANESE FAMILY? 2929 SB: YEAH. SO DID YOU YOURSELF FEEL THAT YOU WERE SORT OF LESS PART OF A LEBANESE COMMUNITY THAN JUST A KIWI GIRL, OR WHAT? 2949 OB: And I think I put down LEBANESE there and I should have put down New Zealand. 2959 SB: RIGHT, RIGHT. SO IN TERMS OF THE LEBANESE CULTURE, WHAT ASPECTS OF LEBANESE CULTURE WERE REALLY PROMINENT WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG, REALLY? I MEAN YOU'VE MENTIONED COOKING. 2977 SB: YEAH. WHAT OTHER ASPECTS OF LEBANESE CULTURE DO YOU REMEMBER BEING VERY STRONG WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG? 2987 OB: Oh broken. I think it would be broken because they would all talk in LEBANESE. 3175 ZR: And the Presbyterians and the LEBANESE. It was very good. It's all in the Early Settlers. 3225 +++ 21 text units out of 3416, = 0.61% +++ Searching document int.Mrs OB, Mrs ZR, int 3... OB: In between that we got a priest from overseas who come. A LEBANESE. They opened it. He could have been there just for a day or two days, whatever it is, and then they went away again. 2 OB: There was Greek Orthodox and ... LEBANESE. 154 OB: LEBANESE. 158 SB: SO WERE THEY LEBANESE FAMILIES MAINLY? 160 OB: LEBANESE and Greek families. 162 SB: RIGHT. DID ANY NON-LEBANESE OR NON-GREEK PEOPLE OR FAMILIES GO TO ST MICHAEL'S? 212 SB: RIGHT. AND WAS THE SERVICE ... WOULD THE PRIEST ... WAS IT IN LATIN OR LEBANESE OR ...? 598 OB: The old ones were in the LEBANESE. 600 ZR: LEBANESE. 602 OB: But now see none of them can talk LEBANESE now. 652 OB: Mmm. Then he was ordained from the LEBANESE ... the Bishop from Australia726 SB: SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ST MICHAEL'S WAS QUITE CENTRAL TO THE LEBANESE COMMUNITY? 736 SB: OK. SO SHE WOULD JUST VISIT ALL THE LEBANESE FAMILIES? 906 OB: No did other LEBANESE ... no. 1060 SB: MMM. I'M WONDERING IF THE LEBANESE FAMILIES INVOLVED AT ST MICHAEL'S, WHETHER THEY ALIGNED THEMSELVES WITH ANY SOCIAL CAUSES. I'M THINKING OF THINGS LIKE SAY TEMPERANCE OR MAYBE THE LABOUR PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 1264 SB: RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THE LEBANESE FAMILIES GETTING INVOLVED IN ANY ...? 1274 SB: DID OTHER LEBANESE CHILDREN GO TO SUNDAY SCHOOLS? 1306 OB: Mmm. Oh yes, it has given us a good background. And we got it from the really old-fashioned LEBANESE way. That was their way. They mightn't have had it but we had it you see. 1518 OB: My grandfather would sing in LEBANESE at the church. We used to love hearing all that. 1526 SB: YEAH. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU IS DID YOU HAVE ANY, OR ANYONE AMONG THE LEBANESE FAMILIES, HAVE ANY WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL SORT OF SUPERSTITIONS OR BELIEFS YOU KNOW, ABOUT CHARMS AND THINGS AND SPIRITS? THINGS LIKE THAT? YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF VARIOUS SUPERSTITIONS AND PRACTISES THAT THEY DO, THAT THEY THINK... DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 1608 SB: MMM. WAS THERE MUCH INTERACTION BETWEEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC LEBANESE LIVING IN TOWN AND ROUND WALKER STREET AND THE SOUTH DUNEDIN LEBANESE FAMILIES? 1636 SB: SO WOULD YOU SAY THERE WAS ANY SORT OF SENSE OF RIVALRY OR ANIMOSITY BETWEEN THE WALKER STREET ROMAN CATHOLIC LEBANESE AND ...? 1696 OB: Mum was brought up most of that way. Her girlfriends were the LEBANESE up there you see. 1702 OB: We still go ... we've got a wee LEBANESE group and they're mostly the Lebanese from Walker Street because there's not many of us. We have every three or four weeks we all have Sunday together. Women and all, we all talk. 1710 OB: But now some of them are half LEBANESE and quarter Lebanese. 1722 SB: MMM. SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THE LEBANESE PERCEIVED THAT THERE WAS AN ECONOMIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAMILIES IN SOUTH DUNEDIN AND IN WALKER STREET. WAS THERE A PERCEPTION THAT THE WALKER STREET LEBANESE WERE A WEALTHIER GROUP? 1738 OB: But then we're business and ... but the Orthodox LEBANESE from out south, well most of them went away. The families got smaller you see. 1782 +++ 27 text units out of 1816, = 1.5% +++ Searching document int.Mrs RB, & Whitty, J... SB: WHAT ABOUT ANY OF THE LEBANESE OR SYRIAN FAMILIES THAT WERE OUT THIS WAY? THE BUNDOS, THE IDOURS OR THE BARBARAS OR THE FACOORYS? 623 +++ 1 text unit out of 1278, = 0.08% +++ Searching document int.Campbell, Amelia... AC: They were all passed away. There was really no one - there's only Jack in my generation now, that's all there is. Not like Olga and Zita, when they go there's nobody. We are the end of the generation that are LEBANESE. The others are all half Lebanese or half English or whatever. 29 AC: They'd heard of other LEBANESE people coming and I thought they thought 'well, we'll go too'. That's all we know. 61 He's well-known out South Dunedin - Gus Campbell - he was a South-end carrier. In our day, everybody knew Gus Campbell, he was a South-end Carrier. Everybody got Gus Campbell to shift them, and they all forgot to pay him though, didn't they? And I used to say to him: "why don't you send an account?" And he said: "they knew where to come for me, they know where to come and pay me". And that's how he looked at it. When he passed away he was well-known out South Dunedin. And they were all there at his service and I looked and I thought: "yes, you all owe us money". That's what I thought, really. Not a nice thing to say, but that's right. And that was that. He wasn't LEBANESE, Gus Campbell. No, no. 147 SB: YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU - WAS THAT AN ISSUE FOR SOME OF THE OLDER --- YOUR PARENTS - THAT YOU DIDN'T MARRY A LEBANESE? 149 AC: No. Olga married a LEBANESE - she married Barbara - Jackie Barbara's brother. No. No. We lived next door to one another. We grew up together. 155 AC: You'll be surprised. An Englishman is still here - it's not a LEBANESE minister. There was an English minister when we were young, but if anyone came from Australia and they were Lebanese, they did the service in Lebanese for us. I understand - I can speak Lebanese and I understand, these other generations, a little after me, they don't speak Lebanese very much. But I speak it fluently. But there's no one here now to talk Lebanese with. 195 AC: I have a friend here and her and I have a wee talk in LEBANESE over the phone. 199 SB: WAS HE A LEBANESE? 213 SB: DO YOU REMEMBER THE LEBANESE PRIEST DO YOU REMEMBER . . .? 221 AC: If they came on holiday and they did a service. Yes. I understand LEBANESE. I understand it as I do English. I speak Lebanese. Not as much as we should because there's no one now to talk Lebanese. I've got a sister who doesn't half understand Lebanese. 223 SB: WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE FIRST LEBANESE PRIEST? 225 AC: Oh I wouldn't know. I would never know. We'd only know when he came from Australia or Lebanon, there was a service on and we went. When I was going they were English - it was from the Holy Cross in St Kilda, he was, you know, not LEBANESE at all. We went to church, he just did an English service. But my daughter and I used to go, there was no Lebanese at all. No Lebanese speaking - English. 227 AC: Yes. Lovely, the LEBANESE, just like they do in English, but in Lebanese. The Holy Communion. Just the same. Only done in Lebanese. They had a group man there, you want to go down, you pay your --- you'd get all you want to know if you just go to a service, it starts at 10 o'clock on a Sunday morning. They have a lot of Greeks and a lot of --- Olga knows, Olga goes every Sunday morning. Her and Zita go. I don't say they go every Sunday morning, but they go regular. 235 AC: Well I haven't been to a Dunedin service for a long time. I haven't been for a long time - 18 years. I wouldn't know now - it's just an English service. They give you Holy Communion like the LEBANESE people do and that's all I know. Olga's the one, they go regular. 239 SB: THE --- WAS IT JUST LEBANESE FAMILIES THAT WENT TO ST MICHAEL'S IN THE EARLY DAYS? 241 AC: No. If any of the English people that lived around there, they used to come into the service. People over the road used to come in and they weren't LEBANESE. It was spoken in English unless it was a real Lebanese minister. And I don't remember --- only if he was a Lebanese that he spoke Lebanese, but they were all, when we grew up they were really only English. 243 AC: And I think the Catholics wouldn't marry us. Just the same. We had a lot of friends - LEBANESE Catholics. Very friendly, good friends. Lovely friends really. Lovely friends. 275 AC: Ooh yeah they were staunch Catholics. Yes. They still are. Their children are. Not many of them left in Dunedin I don't think. And they've married into English, you know, Anglais, and different life altogether. I married an English, but it didn't worry my husband, he knew I was LEBANESE. We grew up together. We were children together. Next door to one another. Their mother died and left seven children. 283 AC: Not the Campbell family, no. But if anything special was on and I wanted Gus to go, he would go, but otherwise he didn't bother. But the minister used to come and talk to us. But he wasn't LEBANESE. 295 SB: HMM. WHAT SORT OF SOCIAL ACTIVITIES WOULD ALL THE LEBANESE FAMILIES GET UP TO IN THE OLD DAYS? 305 SB: UH-HMM. JACK WAS TELLING ME ABOUT LEBANESE PICNICS AND BALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 313 SB: OKAY. HMM. AND JACK WAS SAYING THAT IN HIS FAMILY HIS MOTHER USED TO DO ALL THE LEBANESE COOKING, JUST EVERYTHING. 347 SB: SO YOUR MOTHER, WOULD SHE DO ALL THE LEBANESE COOKING AS WELL? 359 AC: Oh yes. Yes. We do LEBANESE cooking here. When I'm in the mood. 361 SB: DO YOU REMEMBER THE --- JACK WAS SAYING, THERE'D BE LEBANESE PICNICS WHERE THEY'D HAVE BIG SPORTS DAYS WITH THE . . .? 367 AC: Yes. Three or four families, they all had big families. LEBANESE people had big families. And three or four families - well the Barbara's there was 12 of them - 14 of them altogether. There was Gus and I and Nancy, I had one daughter, three of us and somebody else had four. Oh, he took them all down in his van. Yes he was a good man Gus Campbell. He's well-known out South Dunedin - he won't be known now, different generation, unless you're talking to somebody that's 80 or 90. 369 AC: Yes. He had a factory. Sewing factory. He was LEBANESE, his wife wasn't. Had a daughter, Thelma, she passed away, long time ago. Yes. George Adess. 377 AC: He was LEBANESE. His wife was English. 405 SB: DO YOU THINK THAT BACK THEN THAT THERE WAS A SORT OF AN ATTITUDE AGAINST THE LEBANESE PEOPLE BY OTHERS? 427 AC: Nothing. We were brought up talking LEBANESE. My sister doesn't remember it from another, she gets it's all muddled up and all, but I am the only one in our family now who is alive that speaks Lebanese, the others are more English. I've got a sister who doesn't know a quarter of Lebanese, she mixes it all around - you get to know what it means. 469 AC: English. I was born here, I was English. I was speaking English. We learnt English with LEBANESE. We had to talk English so our mother could learn English. My father was well-educated. Idours were well-educated. But my mother, she learned English from us. As the children grew up and went to school, she had to learn from them. We never spoke Lebanese very much at all. We did, the older ones, not the younger ones. 477 SB: YEAH. UH-HMM. HOW IMPORTANT WAS RELIGION TO THE WHOLE LEBANESE COMMUNITY? 503 AC: Very religious. Oh yes. Yes. Very, very religious. Oh yes. Very religious. And there's time, we never had our lunch until we said prayer. Very religious. Ollah always talked about, Ollah - God. We were brought up that way. As time got more modern and the other children came up, well they grew up with the English - Anglais - we called them, English. Tony, my brother and I we were brought up with all LEBANESE people, but as we grew up and the others came along, well they would talk to my mother in English, that's how my mother learnt to speak English, from the children. 505 AC: Yes. Why did you put so many wild flowers, mum said. That's Gus Campbell when he was a boy. I might have photos of mum - I don't know whether this is the book or not. That's my mother at 17. She was married at 18. This is the book I want to show you. There's the LEBANESE church. Now there's Les Mrs OBlga's husband. John Aya, a Lebanese, my brother's there. There's a brother of mine. I'll tell you who they are. There's Olga's grandmother standing there with a hat on, can you see? 519 AC: That's my aunty and that's my brother. That's Lotti Amuni, a LEBANESE lady. She lived in Wesley Street out South Dunedin. 543 AC: Lotti Amuni. The Amunis. Her and her brother and her father. She came out when she was about . . . oh I don't know. I'd be about 15 when she came out from Lebanon. She couldn't speak English or anything. Amuni. . . . There's the LEBANESE Ball. All the Lebanese people in all Lebanese and all their wives and husbands, all there. 547 AC: She was Julia Howley. Well that's her there. And they're all LEBANESE people that are here. I'm not here. I was in hospital at the time. And they're all Lebanese family with their wives and family at a reunion. 555 AC: That's me. That's my mother when she was young. . . . There's my brother Tony - Tony Idour. There's my sister Emily, she's passed away. There's my daughter, Nancy. Tony, me. Sissie my sister - my sister just passed away a couple of months ago, this one. This one here is a grandmother, this girl here now, she's a grandmother. LEBANESE people. There's Jackie's sister, Mary - Mary Idour, Lebanese. All Lebanese there. There's my husband and his niece - she came here the last time you were here. Remember the girl that came here? 563 AC: He gave her away, that's her. And there's Gus, Nancy and me. I'll just see if I've got some old photos I can show you, I don't know. This is my house in Dunedin. . . . There's my two sisters, they're in their '70s now. That's my grandson, you don't know anybody there. Let me see if I've got any LEBANESE people here. You might see Victor here. . . . There's Mary - Jackie's sister. That's my son-in-law. . . . There's our family group. There's my mother, my father had died. There's my mother. There's me. My brother, Tony, my brother Carl, my brother, Victor. My sister who lives just down the road here - Nealhurst Road. This sister passed away, and this sister passed away just a couple of months ago. This is the one that had the Military Medal, Victor - Victor Idour. This is Tony he worked at Shacklock's. My father had just died. This is a character of a sister. She's 86 now. So you know how old that photo is. 567 AC: All English, no LEBANESE. Oh no, no Lebanese. I won a lot of prizes for catechism, I don't know where, I can't put my hand on them now, but I won a lot of prizes for catechism. When I was young. That's the church we went to. 579 AC: We didn't have a LEBANESE minister at our church. There was no church open. No minister. No church. They went there. That's because there was no minister at our church. No minister there to do our services. 655 +++ 41 text units out of 671, = 6.1% +++ Searching document int.Campbell, Ronald J.... SB: RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE MUCH INTERACTION WITH ANY CHINESE OR LEBANESE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA? 216 SB: AND DID YOU COME ACROSS ANY OF THE LEBANESE AND SYRIAN FAMILIES THAT LIVED OUT THIS WAY? 238 +++ 2 text units out of 516, = 0.39% +++ Searching document int.Delargey, Edward J.... SB: RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THE LEBANESE OR THE SYRIAN FAMILIES? 668 ED: Ooh yeah. Oh yeah. Used to smell garlic - they used to eat a lot of garlic. And strong. You know. And you could smell them. Smell their breath you know, if you were sitting beside one. Oh yes, they were --- and another thing, they all had money. They made money those devils you know. And they were always well- dressed. Always well-dressed, you know. The LEBANESE. A lot of them. 694 SB: YEAH. DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THE SYRIAN AND LEBANESE FAMILIES THAT LIVED OUT THIS WAY? I'M THINKING OF MAYBE THE IDOURS. . . 716 +++ 3 text units out of 1354, = 0.22% +++ Searching document int.Mr KD F L... SB: HMM. INTERESTING ISN'T IT. WHAT ABOUT --- I KNOW THERE WERE QUITE A FEW LEBANESE AND SYRIANS LIVING IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 411 +++ 1 text unit out of 694, = 0.14% +++ Searching document int.Fountain, Kathleen Vere... *SB:MMM. MMM. DID YOU COME ACROSS OR INTERACT MUCH WITH THE LEBANESE AND SYRIAN FAMILIES IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 894 SB: WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THE EARLY LEBANESE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN? 906 KF: Just that they'd come from wherever they came from, Syria I suppose it was, was it? They were LEBANESE though, some of them, I think. 908 KF: And the Quakers, but I certainly don't remember any Mormons or any of the Brethren or anyone like that, but I think those LEBANESE belonged to one of those religions, didn't they? 1741 +++ 4 text units out of 2264, = 0.18% +++ Searching document int.Ingram, C.W.N.... CI:Yes. What we called Syrians. We now know they were LEBANESE. 258 CI:No idea. Probably the reason they came out to New Zealand was that the LEBANESE who came here are all Christians belonging to the orthodox church. Greek Orthodox. And they still have their own chapel in South Dunedin. 274 +++ 2 text units out of 1385, = 0.14% +++ Searching document int.Mrs HJ... SB: DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THE SYRIAN OR LEBANESE WHO LIVED IN THIS AREA? 314 +++ 1 text unit out of 1579, = 0.06% +++ Searching document int.Kennedy, James Ronayne... SB: HMM. . . . DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THE LEBANESE AND THE SYRIAN FAMILIES IN THIS AREA? 484 RK: Oh yes. Uh, now there's a lot of --- they still, I think, live up in Carroll Street, round that region. Uhm. LEBANESE - a lot of Lebanese at school when I went there, in fact a neighbour of mine across the road here is Lebanese. 486 SB: SO A LOT OF LEBANESE CHILDREN WENT TO ST PHIL'S? 488 SB: SO WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG DID YOU HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE LEBANESE PEOPLE AT ALL - LEBANESE KIDS? 500 SB: DID YOU PLAY WITH LEBANESE CHILDREN? 508 SB: DO YOU REMEMBER EVER ANY LEBANESE FAMILIES ACTUALLY LIVING HERE IN SOUTH DUNEDIN AREA? 516 +++ 6 text units out of 925, = 0.65% +++ Searching document int.Marlow, Kevin... SB: Hmm. Now I also know there were some LEBANESE, Syrian families that lived out this way too. 223 KM: And we called them some terrible names at times. I don't know why. I've never worked out why. It was just something you accepted. The first time you met them - 'oh they're so-and-so's'. But I found out subsequently, some of our greatest friends are LEBANESE. My daughter - oldest daughter, was married in the States, now she's 53 or something - she was born in 1947 - she'll be 54 - 54 she is now, that's right. Well, Angela's closest friend was a Lebanese girl here in Dunedin. And they still correspond. In fact the Lebanese girl has just come back from a holiday over there, staying with her. And she's married here with her children - her family. But no - the Lebanese in those days - in a most un-Christian way we looked down on them, I don't know why. 233 SB: RIGHT. WHAT --- WHAT STOOD OUT ABOUT THE LEBANESE BACK THEN, DO YOU THINK? HOW WOULD OTHER PEOPLE VIEW THEM? 239 SB: RIGHT. HMM. OKAY. UHM, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION I WAS WONDERING. I'VE TALKED --- I ASKED YOU BEFORE ABOUT THE CHINESE AND THE LEBANESE, DO YOU REMEMBER THERE BEING ANY OTHER, I GUESS, DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUP, OUT THIS WAY? OR ANYONE OF SAY, A BLACK FACE, YOU KNOW, MAORI - I KNOW THERE WAS A WEST INDIAN MAN AROUND HERE AT ONE STAGE, BACK THEN. DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OTHER . . .? 703 +++ 4 text units out of 726, = 0.55% +++ Searching document int.Mr LM... SB: WAS IT SIMILAR WITH THE LEBANESE, THE SYRIANS? 649 SB: DID YOU HAVE CHINESE OR LEBANESE OR SYRIAN FRIENDS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG? DID YOU PLAY WITH THEM OR GO TO SCHOOL WITH THEM? HAVE THEM AS FRIENDS? 653 LM: To be quite candid, I wouldn't have known --- I must have been awfully ignorant I wouldn't have known whether they were LEBANESE or Arabic or what they were. They were just - OK I went to school with them. Chinese, I will admit I could see the difference there. 655 LM: But as far as the LEBANESE were concerned they just had a nice healthy tan most of the year, so I wouldn't have taken any notice of them. 659 +++ 4 text units out of 1842, = 0.22% +++ Searching document int.McKeich, Ken... KM: Yeah. The Barbaras were down --- I don't think they were LEBANESE anyway. No, the Lebanese went to Forbury School and they were the only ones. We never had any Chinese at Forbury School. And I think we only had one Maori and one Maori teacher. But there was no --- no, it was a big school, 700 went to Forbury. 501 KM: . . . Yeah. Any weddings for the LEBANESE, all the women from the Flat used to go there, because it was always an event to be seen. Because the lace come out and there was beautiful weddings. Even that little church. 577 SB: OKAY. DID I ASK YOU LAST TIME ABOUT THE LEBANESE AND THE SYRIAN FAMILIES THAT LIVED OUT THIS WAY? 767 +++ 3 text units out of 1202, = 0.25% +++ Searching document int.Mrs LMM '01... SB: HMM. DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THE LEBANESE AND SYRIAN FAMILIES THAT LIVED OUT THAT WAY? 367 +++ 1 text unit out of 961, = 0.10% +++ Searching document int.Mr JRMM... SB: DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THE LEBANESE OR SYRIAN FAMILIES OUT THAT WAY? 225 JM: I think the LEBANESE the only feelings we had for them - they used to come round the door and sell materials. 235 +++ 2 text units out of 649, = 0.31% +++ Searching document int.Norman, Annie... TB: AND THAT'S WHERE THE LEBANESE LIVED TOO, DIDN'T THEY? 2466 TB: Oh yes. And so were a lot of the LEBANESE. 2502 +++ 2 text units out of 3011, = 0.07% +++ Searching document int.Mr TR... SB: AND ALSO HOW DID YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS VIEW THE LEBANESE AND THE SYRIAN PEOPLE WHO HAD SETTLED IN THE SOUTH DUNEDIN AREA AND ST KILDA AREA? 124 TR: I don't know. But as kids do, they sort of pass things round about Jews and other Syrians, people. But there were some people of --- we called them Syrians, I'm not quite sure, I couldn't identify them now, a family of Wards, they were called. And they were of that kind of extraction. Didn't make any difference to us. We had a Maori boy or two in our school as well. We rather respected them very much. But that tended to be - tended to be unnecessary bigotry towards those particular coloured people. And I think it was there even then, because by now its rampant isn't it. My son lived in the Sydney, lives in the Blue Mountains now, but he was surrounded by LEBANESE in the street that he was in, and he was glad to go. Because they were simply buying every property so they could establish themselves, a community over there. 126 +++ 2 text units out of 569, = 0.35% +++ Searching document int.Shiel, Gerald... I:WHAT ABOUT THE LEBANESE? 870 GS:He didn't run a business with them. LEBANESE .... the last 40 years have they .... 876 +++ 2 text units out of 1011, = 0.20% +++ Searching document int.Shiel, Miss... AB:WHAT ABOUT OTHER RACIAL GROUPS LIKE LEBANESE OR ..? 986 Miss S:I had a lot of friends amongst the LEBANESE at different times. As I said we were brought up differently. You see C.A. Shiel crowd would have looked down on them. They were ... but we were never allowed to. Mum was very fussy. She was a school teacher you see. 988 AB:DID YOU NOTICE THAT THEY TENDED TO LIVE IN THE SAME AREAS PERHAPS, THE CHINESE AND THEN THE LEBANESE ..? 994 +++ 3 text units out of 1349, = 0.22% +++ Searching document int.Mrs ZO... And I remember one little boy, beautiful big brown eyes, I think he was LEBANESE, and another one, you see whatever age they were, the schools which sent, in say three bus loads in, all they'd fit in Macandrew Road, intermediate schools used to take us two days to put them through, and he said that this little boy is looking at the other and he said, 'What she talking about? What she saying?' - something like that - and he said, 'Cowshit'. I said, 'You're quite right, that's what it is but we don't say it like that', you see. But I said that is what it is (MC: mmm). You see, I never tried to hide things, but ah so that's where I got all my talking and that. I used to swot it up you see. 967 +++ 1 text unit out of 1071, = 0.09% +++ Searching document int.Sparkes, Shirley... +++ Searching document int.Mrs MT... SB: RIGHT, OK. ALREADY SOME LEBANESE. 216 MT: And Dad made matters worse by marrying Mum who was not a LEBANESE or a Syrian or whatever they're called, with the result - Mum was in the same position. She was in trouble because she married out of her ... And we got the half and half. 300 SB: RIGHT. AND BECAUSE SHE MARRIED A LEBANESE. 310 SB: WERE THE HOWLEYS LEBANESE OR JUST? 562 SB: DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR FAMILY WAS FAIRLY TYPICAL OF THE OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES IN SOUTH DUNEDIN? 736 SB: DO YOU THINK THAT THE LEBANESE WERE REGARDED AS ... WERE 'ON THE OUTER', OR REGARDED IN A PARTICULAR WAY? 930 MT: No. I think they were regar ... well there again, you have your division of that LEBANESE group. 932 SB: MMM. NO THAT'S OK. THAT'S ONLY ONE ASPECT THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN. OK. WHAT ABOUT OTHER LEBANESE FAMILIES IN THE SOUTH DUNEDIN AREA? 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